Probably a little late to comment, but just about rear drains and disposals - I have a big, honkin' Kitchenaid batch feed disposal; it's one of the largest disposals on the market. I also have a rear drain. There was no problem installing it. But I think it depends on each individual set-up. Perhaps Tko_in_Fl's sink is in such a position that it wouldn't fit a disposal with a rear drain, while mine would. I think her KD shouldn't have made such a broad generalization, unless he/she was just talking about Tko_in_Fl's particular set-up. It looks like Tko_in_Fl realized that, and I think it's a great idea to check out her setup and measurements herself - the KD is not always right, as we have seen reported on this Forum several times. BTW, my sink is 9" deep, plus the countertop, and I have never felt it was too deep. Although I am a neatnik, and keep the sink pretty much empty most of the time, on those times when I have pots soaking, I am glad not to be able to see them. We have an eat-in kitchen, and I wouldn't like to see some greasy stock pot soaking in the sink while I am trying to drink my morning coffee! So the deeper sink prevents that. But I have read on this forum that taller people may find deep sinks fatigueing. No one in my family has had that problem, but I am really the only one to spend a lot of time in front of the sink, and I am 5'3", and have never found the deep sink a problem. The only comment I have about the brands in the subject thread is that the Franke is a shinier finish than the Kindred or Blanco which are more brushed. The shinier finish is very pretty, but will show the scratches more glaringly, until it develops a "patina", which could take some months. But a lot of people prefer the shinier finish, it's personal taste.

I vote for elkay. I do not like the 'shiny' stainless that shows every scratch and 'patina.' After an extensive hunt I felt very wary of any of the newer stainless as they seemed prone to this, so I bought an elkay drainboard sink. I actually found it on CL secondhand, and it still looks the same as a new one. They are heavy duty sinks and I'm very excited about it. Here is a link that might be useful: This is my sink

Hey, I didn't think model numbers were important same size/ type sink and all, but here they are: Ticor S405 $170(with grid and strainer - basket or regular), Mr Direct 2421D $110 (with grid and regular strainer). Both prices include shipping. Also, I haven't compared with Franke, Blanco etc. but I was hoping others had. Now I have to go look at those. Dag-nabit! Still between the cheaper online sinks, my review, although subjective, was done as objectively as subjective can be. Eh?

Hi suzatwork, Sorry I missed your original post from June 3rd! It was a shock to pull up GW tonight and see this old thread from early April at the top of the list again! :-) So... I can answer your question. After much hemming and hawing and debating and mild cussing and indecisiveness, I wound up going with the Ticor S105-8. My debates back and forth were so inconclusive that I wound up putting a picture of both sinks (S105-8, 405D) side by side in a single JPEG on my webserver and showing them to about a dozen different friends/family members. About 8 or 9 voted for the S105-8, and about 3 or 4 voted for the Ticor. It truly came down to this: do the benefits of the huge 21" left sink outweigh the negatives of the small 10" right sink? In the end, to me, they did not. Now, as of two days ago, my countertop and S105-8 sink are installed! :-) I will say this much, after seeing the sink in-person, in place: it is plain as day to me that a 10" right sink would be very difficult to use in any normal fashion. Normal plates (often about 12" wide) would not fit whatsoever -- you'd basically be resigned to using it purely for soaking silverware or peeling potatoes (if you do that sort of thing in a sink), etc. Is the 17-3/4" left of the S105-8 big enough? I sure think so. It's significantly bigger than most any other non-single bowl sink I've seen --- most people I know seem to have 50-50 double bowls that are 15" wide or so. Not having used my sink yet, of course, I won't know for sure for a little longer. My thoughts at this point however --- I am very glad I got the S105-8, and I would probably get a huge single bowl sink before getting the 405D, simply because I can't picture that tiny 10" right side being useful in very many situations. Obviously a number of people here on GW have the 405D and love it so I am by no means slamming the 405D -- it just truly comes down to "how do you use your sinks?" Frankly and honestly? My biggest regret is not making the center kitchen cabinet wider -- if I could do it over again, I would have made the kitchen cabinet larger than 36", and instead gotten a 2-bowl that was like 22" on the left and 14" on the right (if something like that exists!) But my kitchen's shape is funky and I'd lose valuable counterspace if I did that, so, in the end, I'm really quite happy with the choice of the S105-8. The 17-3/4" left bowl seems perfectly large enough to me, and it is DEEP too, since it's an undermount sitting underneath a 3cm thick slab of soapstone. The one question you have to ask yourself, before getting the S105-8: "do I have to be able to lay most large cookie sheets completely flat on the bottom of my large sink for soaking purposes?" If so, the S105-8 is not for you. It seems there's a good number of cookie sheets that are 18-20" long, and so they will not lay flat in my sink. Does that irk me at all? Yeah, probably a little. They would fit and lay flat in the 405D. But... in the end, that positive didn't outweigh the negative of a really tiny right sink that is narrower than my 11" foot (!) How many times am I really going to have the need to soak a cookie sheet underwater like that? I use aluminum foil over my cookie sheets when i bake anyways, so having to soak crud off them is not really a concern. So, after this long-winded response that probably as you bored to tears :-) .... in the end, I'm glad I went with the S105-8 over either the 405D or a large single bowl, and am happy with the choice. But to me the ideal is to have a 42" sink cabinet and get the best of both worlds -- at least 22" on the left, and maybe 16" on the right, something like that. :-) I've promised sw_in_austin and a few others that I'll have pics up today or tomorrow, so you can see then for yourself what it looks like. Cheers, Supra92