The pull of gravity, was converted into kinetic energy, or energy of motion. There are many type of systems related to system Heating: Radaint heating system, Portable heaters,and Visco Temp heaters. In Hybrid cars the braking system captures the kinetic energy usually lost through braking and transfers it back into the ESS

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There are quality boilers without the bells and whistles that are just as good. Bells and whistles are great until they need servicing $$$.

They are good boilers that work very well in the right application. If the contractor is experienced with them and has a parts supply you should be happy.

I have one. Installed in new house in 2001. Average about 3-400 gal oil/year. 5000 sq ft house. includes hot water. Minimal problems. Parts no problem. Make sure you have someone install that has done these before. Call EK to get a installer in your area.

I have seen some of the Kinetic dealers here in MA stop selling. They have had problems with cracking. They are a efficient but there are other options. Viessmann is a very good product and can fit most any budget. At the very least ask about a true out door reset for the system.

phhvac - were those cracking issues related to older utits from the 80's?

baymee - what types of bells and whistles are you talking about? W/ today's heating prices, a few bells and whistles could pay for themselves in one year...regardless if they're EK's heat manager or an off-the-shelf HW AQ2000.

It is recognized that DOEÂs Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency (AFUE) is a poor standard for determing a heating system's overall efficiency.

www.nora-oilheat.org/site20/uploads/IV.%20C%20NORA_Policy_r4.pdf

A resent study looking at overall fuel savings found the EK to be the highest rated oil boiler. The second highest rated oil boiler (by a fraction of a point) was the Buderus g125be.

www.nora-oilheat.org/site20/uploads/FullReportBrookhavenEfficiencyTest.pdf

these two systems provide quite different methods to heat your home, but with relatively the same fuel savings.

EKs have been around for a long time now. An installer needs to be trained by EK to sell them. As a homeowner, if I had to throw a blanket statement out there, it seems the installers in the EK network love them and those who aren't dislike them. As far as I can tell, no one has countered EK's claims of fuel savings, however, as noted above by others, there are other sytems you should consider for similar savings.

If you haven't already, search the Wall at heatinghelp.com for "system 2000" or "energy kinetics". You'll have enough hits to wallpaper your boiler room :-)

I am back again and still haven't made any decisions. I was wondering if there are any other comments/experiences that people have about the System 2000 heating systems? I don't find any warranties listed on their website especially since some have mentioned the system cracking. Does anyone have any more information about this? I am still debating re this system and the Buderus.I would like this system to last more than 20 yr without breaking down on me.Would the Buderus be a better choice since it made of cast iron vs stainless steel. It is very hard to know whether to go natural gas or stay with oil given it price and where it go in the future.

I bought a System 2000 boiler with a SuperStor Ultra indirect water heater in September '08, and I'm absolutely THRILLED with it.

Compensating for central MA heating degree days, the new system is using about 45% less fuel than our previous setup (a 1994 New Yorker steel boiler, measured at 82% AFUE, with indirect HW).

You can tell right away that you're saving money because the boiler just sits there completely cold most of the time. When it does come on, it runs only as long as it needs to and goes cold again after circulating any residual heat into the house or water heater. It makes perfect sense when you think about it.

I had considered the Buderus, but it was physically larger, a bit more expensive and a bit less efficient. That included the pricey outdoor reset controller that several contractors admitted was "very tricky" to optimize. Ultimately, I opted for simplicity over complexity, and buying American was a bonus.

Regarding the cracking, my installer said the most common problem is when clueless technicians try to clean the high-tech ceramic combustion chamber with a brush and crack it (basically, it should NEVER be touched). Make sure the person installing/servicing this system has been fully trained on it, and get references if possible.

Some contractors claimed "you can't get parts for those boilers". Turns out all the parts are standard off-the-shelf items (burner, circulator, zone valves, etc), except for the controller and the boiler core itself. If the controller dies, you can short out two contacts with a paper clip and force it into conventional boiler mode - always hot - until someone can fix it. There's even an outlet on the controller to plug in a generator if you lose power, which I learned during the December ice storm.

I was stuck with oil, but this boiler can run on natural gas or propane with a simple burner swap if you decide to switch. I thought it was a really cool feature.

Warranty is limited lifetime on the pressure vessel & controller, and I believe five years on everything else, but you can confirm with the mfr. I chose the SuperStor water heater because it had a lifetime warranty and the EK one didn't.

I probably sound like a shill for the manufacturer, but I'm just extremely pleased with this boiler... and happy to be saving money, helping the environment and hurting the terrorists. ;-)

Hi, I know this is an older post but going to try here anyway. I am having the same dilemma. Most of what I see on EK System 2000 is directly from the manufacturer except Heating Help and this site as one mentioned. I am not sure if the ceramic being so fragile if its going to last, especially more than 20 yrs. I hear Buderus will last 30 yrs. I don't want to be on egg shells every time someone cleans it even if they are trained by the manufacturer. Is it that fragile? Is steel better than cast iron? Thanks for reading.