Heat pump vs forced air furnace
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13 years ago
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creek_side
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Comments (7)Before I started getting any new system quotes I would get an energy audit done. Your local utility might have someone or pay for a portion of it..some pay a large portion. I would make sure the house is shot from the inside and out with a thermal imaging camera while you are there to see it first hand. Have the registers both supply and return flow tested and compared with what the unit is supposed to be at and get a blower door test to see how much leakage you have. I would go on a caulking and foaming rampage any wire or pipe penetration into the subfloor I would caulk or foam and any in the attic same thing. Recessed lights are a big leakage point even IC rated can leak up to 50cfm each. I would get this done and then get the new unit and make sure they seal the ductwork at every seam and connection before putting insulation over it. I went back through your post..I would get quotes for a new system, both gas and all electric. I would post the results in here along with at least the state you live in and electric and gas rates. The people in here that really know hvac will need the model numbers of the units you received quotes on, outside unit, inside unit and coil. Some utilities will give you a credit or pay you to upgrade if you keep a heat pump. I have seen some go up to 1,000.00 for an air to air system depending on SEER. Quite a few will throw 300-500 at you just for upgrading....See MoreSeattle- Heat Pump/Gas Furnace vs AC/Gas Furnace
Comments (13)You should definitely be pricing with just heat pump. I live in NC which probably is a bit colder in the winter. We get down to the teens but only 15 nights a year maybe. Our winter average low is about 30. Under 10 degrees is definitely a news story. I have 5000 sq ft. I'm looking at my NG bill of $30. I have dual fuel and seer 16 heat pumps. Last winter was very cold and I spent about $700 with $200 being gas. This winter is going to be $120 in gas. My electric rates are similar to yours without the first 1000 discount. What is my point? Your gas usage will likely be $100 a year. Even if that were replaced with all heating strips, you'd be saving $200 a year or so. Since it would probable be 80% heat pump still, the dual fuel is only saving you $40 a year. So a $2500 furnace to save $40 a year seems a little crazy (on dollars alone). Turns out for me, it is probably worth it but only marginally so. I have a 90% (which you should be able to do as mine is basement with horizontal PVC exhaust). It probably saves $60-$70 on an average year. Probably cost $2000 (new house - I can't remember). What is that a 30 year payback (or never if you count interest or NG rates increase)? You do get some flexibility and you can setback at will with dual fuel. That is worth something....See MoreOil furnace/heat pump vs hp+ electric strips
Comments (23)Hi, we have similar situation to research. We are looking into upgrading our HVAC and have question as to go with Heat Pump with Electric or Oil backup. Background: Central Massachusetts, 20 year old house, 3000sqft typical two story colonial with central forced hot air oil furnace and AC. Currently 5ton AC and heating with 80% efficient and I think 110000BTU oil furnace. Which might be more than necessary. No natural gas available. Oil or Propane. 200Amp main panel. Electric rates are about 11.39cents per KWH. Oil rates are about $4.00 dollars per gallon. AC is only two months or so, heating is more important. So we are thinking of choosing a low temperature Heat Pump with good HSFP, SEER is less important. Questions: We were wondering if for the price of electric and oil if we can move to electric as backup in this area (New England). Would there also be any re-sale issues later too? Our dealer is also recommending Byrant 280A 5 Ton low temperature with 20KW, which we might request to bump up to the three stage 24KW heat strips because we keep warm temperature (70F). Thank you for any help you can give....See MoreAC + gas furnace vs, Heat Pump + furnace
Comments (5)All units are Bryant Furnace = 355BAV A/C = 127A Heat Pump = 226A Had to order today to take advantage of rebate offer that ends 8/31. Never could figure out how to estimate the cost of running the heat pump vs. the gas furnace and couldn't locate any on-line calculators/spreadsheets that would help. Figured I'd save a bunch with new 95% furnace over the old sigle-stage 80%, and the new 17 SEER a/c over the old single-stage 10. It's small house (1450 sf) and well insulated, and I didn't know if I'd squeeze enough additional savings with a heat pump to justify the extra initial cost of the pump plus whatever extra cost would be involved in replacing it sooner because of running it much more. When in doubt, play conservatively (at least where money is involved), so I went for the a/c unit. Wish I'd discovered this website a month earlier. Thanks to all those who responded....See Morecreek_side
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