I have no experience with small roasting pans other than pyrex 9x13 which, obviously, are not for deglazing on induction, but the topic has come up from time to time. Seems to me that somewhere last year I saw something about Viking having a smaller, induction capable roaster in its line of cookware. However, I think I've also seen something recently about Middelby (the new owner) having decided to cancel the Viking cookware brand. Might try Amazon to see if any are left. Also, it seems to me that All Clad used to have an induction capable roasting pan but they called it a "lasagna pan." If you can go a little larger than 9x13, there may be more choices. I remember a number of these discussions over on Chowhound. Here are some links to discussionsthat may help lead you to other possible candidates: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/879855 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/819169 Also think there was s dicussion here on this subject about five years ago, but can't find it with the search engine. Maybe it was in the Kitchen form?

I will relate my experience with my DW bought in 1996 and this current one purchased in 2006. For the previous one Electrasol tabs with jet dry cleaned just fine, but they created a lot of suds. If I opened the door there was at least 1/2 inch of suds on top of the water. I stopped using them and switched to Electrasol powder with chlorine bleach. The manual for my previous DW said not to use Gels or liquids so I never tried those in that machine. I don't care for the scent of Cascade powders so I've tried them but usually won't buy them due to the scents. Anyway the new machines allow you to use tabs or liquids because there are settings for different types of detergents. The machine will adapt its behavior to the settings. If you use a tablet with rinseAid built in it will not dispense rinse aid and it will also adjust the cycle for hard tablets. I have say that on the box of tabs containing Jet Dry it says that you may still need to use a separate rinse aid if your water is hard. I used the the tabs with jet dry which were purchased in 2007 and there were no suds, and use the new red ball tab also without suds. That said I don't think there are any more detergents sold in the USA that contain rinse Aid. The new formulation of Electrasol tabs does not contain jet dry rinse aid, at least not by reading the description on the box. I still have boxes of the old formula and have compared the composition of the tablet as described on the box. The old formula: white layer contains detergent blue layer contains presoakers the little white ball contains Jet Dry rinse agent. The new Red Ball formula: white layer contains detergent the blue layer contains Jet Dry rinse agent action the little red ball contains presoakers. the tab contains etch protector From this I don't think containing Jet dry and having Jet Dry rinse agent action is the same thing. Maybe I am being to critical but the box says "3n1 100% clean plus Jet-Dry shine" I also use Electrasol gel pacs and get very good results. These also have Jet Dry rinse agent action and enzymes in the gel. The only thing about pacs and most tablets is that you cannot control the dosage. I did a dissolve test using a water temp of 104F which is the temp of the short wash. I shook the solution in a bottle which may not be as vigorous as the action inside the DW. I found that: ElectraSol tabs would not dissolve in 104F. Cascade powder would not dissolve in 104F Miele tabs completely dissolved at 104F ElectraSol powder almost completely dissolved at 104F. The manual says not to use tabs with the short wash. So at least with this current model it has sittings for tabs so I guess Miele is saying you can use them. If anyone knows of a detergent that still contains rinse agent I would like to know. It seems that all detergents now contain some form of etch protector and not rinse aid..I wonder if there is something in these new formulations that increases the chances for etching, thus the protection has been included to help mitigate? One last thing. I have used Electrasol powder with chlorine bleach in this machine. I used it in the previous one. It works for normal soil, but it does not always clean stuck on baked on items as well as an enzyme detergent. A few weeks ago I tried Electrasol Gel - also with chlorine bleach. It left a white film covering everything in the DW - don't know why but I am not using it again. So for Gels Cascade Gel and, Electra Sol Gel pacs(no CB) work good in my water conditions. Electra Sol tabs the old and new formulations work well, Miele tabs work well, Cascade action Paks work well. Ecover left grit all over everything including the insides of the machine...NEVER AGAIN. Cascade powder works very well too I just don't like the scent I smell when I dispense it.

Stumpy, I haven't used boneless thighs but it is definitely worth a try. The pros and cons as I think about it could include: Pros- faster prep, easier to form into uniform shapes, possible reduced cooking time. Cons- the lack of bone could diminish flavor although thigh has a lot to give, the bone cut at the knuckle exudes a certain amount of flavor from the marrow, no bones could translate into a drier product. All of these cons may be exaggerated in my head and could amount to no issues at all. I would however take the extra couple of hours to brine them- just as insurance. Maybe do a couple brined and a couple without out. Be sure to report back. michaelp

I made the cupcakes today. I didn't use a streusel filling/topping, just the sugar, cinnamon and walnut mix that the recipe called for. They came out ok. They look like mushrooms because I overfilled the cupcake tins. I tried to fill them half way, put in some of the sugar mix, and then fill the rest of the way and top with the sugar mix, and that ended up being kind of a waste of time and energy. They tend to come apart at the seams so if I ever make cupcakes out of this recipe again, I will just fill the cupcake tins 2/3 full and then top with the sugar mix. I got 14 cupcakes and I could have gotten 16-18. A little too sweet for my taste but that is probably due to my running out of sour cream and subbing half sweetened vanilla yogurt. I will make again, but probably just put in two round cake pans. That would have been fine.