Hate to say it, but that announcement has been on Subzero's website since last spring.

If it makes you feel any better, we just ordered a 650, knowing that it's outdated. I couldn't convince my wife to go with the Thermador Freedom, which is essentially the new Subzero a year (or two) early.

Heimert - little bit harsh on chaos aren't you?? While the announcement has been on the SZ website since just after KBIS this year it is burried three pages in on the press release page. Hardly where a consumer or many pros are going to gleen info.

The 600 series is not being replaced per se, it's getting revamped or upgraded. Water filter, air cleaner, better lights, ect... IT IS NOT a T'dor Freedom knockoff. Sub Zero practically invented the fully integrated ref. 10 years ago with the 700 series, so they don't need something in that catagory. The new generation is a "built in" line just like the old one.

I didn't mean to be harsh . . . seems like chaos had the opportunity to back out of the purchase, since s/he was told of the new arrivals. All I'm saying is it's not a "surprise" (like new computers coming out right after a purchase). And I'm also saying that even with the "new" models, buying an older one isn't so "bad" (as we are doing it too).

Never saw anything on the subzero website the last 2 years I'v been looking.

antss- you are absolutely correct.. The Thermador is nothing like the Sub Zero. They are made in Turkey (same line as the Bosch and Miele refrigeration). I have seen the 18, 24, and 36" offerings and am very unimpressed with their quality..

the closest thing in quality (IN MY OPINION) is the Northland units. Have installed them and feel that these are very good quality.

Just my .02. Have a wonderful Holiday.

carbiz - are you trying to say the SZ units are lacking in quality? They all have plusses andminuses. Those Northland units are energy hogs and are loud comparatively speaking. Their compressors ship seperately and have to be installed on site. Not really a huge deal but..... If only they'd join the current century and make their units comply with basic energy standards they might have more market share. If you like the commercial look without the true commercial hassles then this is for you. The new BSH especially the Gaggenau offerings are EXTREMELY quiet and miserly. They, along with the SZ Pro 48 are a nice alternative to the commercial look with the benefits of current ref. technology for the home.

Has anyone seen what these new units look like? Either photos or drawings? I'm particularly interested in the 611 as I am just about to order one and now I'm thinking I should wait til next summer.

Here's a link to some pics. On that page, under the fridge description, you can download a pdf design guide that has line drawings of all models.

They don't look terribly different from the current ones.

Here is a link that might be useful: Subzero 2008 models

carbiznh,

Where have you seen the Miele version?

canuck - Miele's version isn't available yet, prob. mid. late next year. There is a thread around here titled Miele fridge or something that has a prototype pic. Some of the MIELE regional factory showrooms have one as does the Princeton, NJ headquarters.

Antss

I have seen the prototype. I understand they will ne available in Canada my the first quarter (maybe) They indicated to watch for details mid jan on the web page.

Canuck- don't hold your breath on the Miele's arriving in Q1 next year. I'm not even sure I'd take a bet on Xmas. Don't count on them coming to Canada before the U.S either. Canada does get a lot of euro appliances that come later (or never) to the U.S., but Miele's N.American headquarters is in NJ and is a VERY lucrative market for them. Smeg is a good example of Canada before the U.S.

antss

We have had the Miele induction cooktop for over 9 months and it still is not in the US?

I have the paper specs on the Miele fridge and freezer when I was at there demo store in Nov. I hope you are wrong but as they say I'm not holding my breath.

Canuck - you sort of bring up why things can show up in Canada before the U.S. or not at all. Electrical issues, more specifically Listing issues. The UL listing is more stringent and costly than the Canadian equivalent: CSA. So foreign appliances sometimes take longer to see shelves in the U.S. Heating appliances, like cooktops and ovens take long and an appliance that has heat and water like a coffee machine is .................

It's Ok cars cost 25% more in Canada so we are even....must be all that non electrical regulations

I think it was the exchange rate, you might see more parity in the next few years.

There is no way out. Do you think they will drop the price of cars by $15,000 on a $60,000 car. Until people stop or slow down buying or until Canadians can buy cars by free trade with a warranty then nothing much will change.

Yeah, but you get cheap Rx drugs up there . . .

OK I should start selling Rx drugs to supllement my income... so I can redo my kitchen or buy a car...I like it.

chaos, don't worry about it - you'll love your new fridge and you can use your savings on some other splurge.
We finally got our 632S installed and the water filter was so easy to install - we got one that uses copper tubing vice plastic - the fittings are right in the front and we can change it in about 2 minutes. The whole unit is on wheels and slides out very easily anyway if you need to get to the back for anything.
What do you need an air filter for anyway? Is that to replace a box of baking soda?