they look plenty brown to me! beautiful. i can't wait to use my rotisserie; we're getting a capital. and i'd never heard about adding a cup of water to the pan to reduce splatter. i'll have to remember that. thanks for posting. looks like you had a beautiful meal! merry Christmas!

kate yes it makes all the difference. There is almost nothing to wipe out. I use a spray degreaser and then wipe out with paper towels. Also if you will let your oven cool quickly with the door open it won't bake on the splatters that are in there . Just a little tip to save on cleaning :)

Please post about your range when you get it going. I don't know anything about Capital. c

Trailrunner:
great pix, great chix.

Have not yet used our rotisserie. Still just getting used to the multitude of functions in the Miele.

Question: what are the pink straps or bands you used to tie the chickens up with? They look useful.

clinresga: they are from Lee Valley. They are OK but not great. Supposedly they are in place of twine. They can pop loose though if they have too much tension. So I wouldn't advise spending the money. I ran out of twine. It is still the best.

You will love the rotisserie. Make sure and use a small amount of water though in the drip pan. I cannot believe the difference this AM as I was washing up. Please post pics on here or kitchen when you get a chance. c

Could you tell me what kind of degreaser you use, and if its okay to use it on the broiler pan? Still having trouble with mine. Thanks.

Hey chinchette....I bought the brand Greased Lightning . I had used Zeb but Lowes doesn't carry it anymore.

I don't use it at all on the broiler pans. Just on the oven itself and then only when I use the rotisserie. After trying the water in the pan I only needed a little spray.

I use the green scrubbies and that seems to keep it all looking new. I am really pleased after this long that it looks so good. Maybe in 20 yrs I will be singing a different tune....let me know how it does. Also remember not to let the oven cool slowly with the doors closed...that just bakes on the grease...open the doors to help the fan cool quickly and spray the cleaner and then close and leave for a while. Really works . c

Thanks. I don't have perfect clean on the oven, only on the pan. However, I can see what you mean about not leaving the pan in the oven. I do put water in the pan these days, but I can't get the prior baked on stuff off. Its even hard to get off the insert to the pan- the splatter thing that goes over the broiling pan. Even when there was no prior stuff baked onto it.

I don't have the splatter thing I guess. I just have 2 huge dark baking pans with sides. They are coated with the PC. They slide under the rack on the special glides so you can move them to whatever rack you want or use them on top of the rack as a baking sheet....that is what I usually do. I use them when I make huge batches of granola etc.

Try the de greaser and the green scrubbie. Also ...and the Miele people would probably have a fit but this is what I did when I had stuff in the oven that wouldn't come off. I used a plastic picnic knife. You know disposable and I scraped back and forth with it after the degreaser had soaked on it. Also make a compress with VERY hot water and a thick rag. Leave it and the degreaser alone for a while and then use the plastic fork ,it all comes off. Believe me it works and the PC is not damaged. GOOD LUCK !! c

I keep thinking that I already damaged my PC but I will try, as long as its okay to use the degreaser on food surfaces.

My baking pan came with the oven as well as the splatter thing that I put on top of the baking pan when cooking chicken. It really does help keep down the splattering.