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Comments (12)If the manufacturer's product literature forbids use of a product by people with pacemakers, heed it by all means. That is probably a substandard product and it is a good thing that the maker/importer is telling you that.. That warning is not generally applicable to most induction cooking products, however. Some product manuals will use bland, "CYA" language about consulting your physician if you have a pacemaker. As if doctors have time time to know this. (One of our local docs called me when a patient asked her a question about this. I pointed the doc to the NIH site to find the studies. This isn't something the docs know about and the proliferation of products would make it hard to keep up, anyway). This concern seems to come up about once a year in this forum. Google "gardenweb + induction + pacemaker" to find previous discussions which also (IIRC) have links back to the NIH and medical studies summarized there. The gist of the medical studies is that there may be a magnetic field from induction cooktops that is detectible by instruments on the chests of persons with unipolar pacemakers (a relatively rare type) implanted on the left side, although the field seemed to be too weak to actually adversely affect those pacemakers. Apparently, no observable effects for other pacemakers. To be sure, persons with pacemakers are generally advised to avoid being within strong magnetic fields. For example, they generally should avoid getting an MRI (which involves putting the body into a strong magnetic field to produce the imaging data). If you have a pacemaker, it also is probably inadvisable to lean against an operating microwave oven (at least an older one whose shielding may have degraded). Nor should you hug an electrostatic loudspeaker, either. Cooking with induction should not give you any comparable field exposure. The magnetic field from induction burners falls off very rapidly within an inch or so of the burner surface. At normal cooking distances, the field might be detectable with sensitive instruments but seems far too weak to have any affect on pacemakers. Most cooks will not normally put their chests into very close proximity to a hot pan, let alone the burner under it. (Maybe if you have a pacemaker and are very short -- to the point where you need to stand with your chest pressed to the front of the stove in order to use a pan on the front burner --- then induction ranges might be something to worry about.) There is another study by an self-appointed "international commission"which is opposed to electromagnetic radiation (EMR) from electronic devices but that is a general health concern and not about pacemakers. If you are concerned about the EMR that surrounds us, from home devices like toasters and televisions to cell phones to power lines, then you probably want to avoid all electric stoves, induction or not. Also, and any gas stove with with a digtial oven control panel, too. Read beyond those studies and you'll find the internet is fraught with the usual array of half-informed mis-advice, hostile fan-boy flaming, paranoia, and just plain nonsense. I think it was last year that we ran across a website -- I think it was something like the Living Large site --- that actually told people to use plastic and wooden utensils when cooking with induction because you could electrocute yourself by touching a metal spoon to a pan on an induction burner. There are other postings which state that induction cooking is just like a microwave without the containment of the oven. Some folks probably view induction cooking as akin to cooking over nuclear waste. You get the idea. So, the bottom lines are these. First, if you have a pacemaker and your doctor says you shouldn't use induction, don't. Second, read the product manual for any induction appliance you are considering. If the manual says "not to be used by anybody with a pacemaker" it is probably a substandard product that you want to avoid, anyway. This post was edited by JWVideo on Mon, Jan 13, 14 at 15:12...See More36' 6 burner propane gas range suggestions
Comments (6)My Mom needs a new gas stove, but isn't thinking high end like my wolf. She wants something basic...36 inch, 4 or 5 burner. Very important that all burners have equal BTU capacity like her old caloric. Does anyone know if there is a decent basic gas stove out there, which provides equal BTU capacity on all burners?...See MoreThermador or Wolf propane gas range top?
Comments (7)I like that my Wolf has the same power, high and simmer, on all burners. I believe in the dual ring of flame over Thermador's star burner. If I wanted the star shaped flame, I'd go with BlueStar. I don't know which Wolf you're going for...the open or sealed burners...but my open burners have 1 grate per 1 burner, so they're not too heavy and awkward to move, but the Thermador and sealed burner Wolfs have 1 grate per 2 burners, so dbl long and dbl heavy. Wolf has the higher BTU ratings. Do you have natural gas? If you're using propane, the Thermador offers only 13K BTUs instead of 15K it offers with NG. The Wolf is designed for the type of fuel used, so there is no BTU difference. The other reason I didn't consider Thermador, which probably doesn't apply to you, but we wanted a 48" with all burners and no griddle or grill, and they didn't offer that configuration. I think Thermador has a 1 yr warranty where Wolf has a 2 yr. The only problem I've had with my Wolf is that the grates had little rubber feet that degraded very quickly. They make a new type of grate now, which they sent immediately. They also sent new underpans, since they weren't 100% sure the new grates would fit the holes in my original ones. They did fit, so now I have 2 sets of the underpans, just because Wolf didn't want me to be inconvenienced with a 'wait and see' plan. The great reports about their customer service is what pushed me the last bit toward deciding for Wolf. I obviously haven't used a Thermador to compare. I am very happy with the performance of my Wolf. Not all that crazy about the shiny black under pans for cleaning, but at least I can take them out when necessary. I was concerned about the sealed vs open burner issue on models like Thermador. But you will hear both sides of that argument here, and it seems to have to do with personal preference, as well as cooking and cleaning style....See MoreGas stove grates too high?
Comments (12)Mark, I feel your pain and our only solution was to return the Bosch. We asked if they made lower grates and they did not. We looked into buying custom made grates but couldn't find anyone that made them. This is a real issue manufacturers need to take note of and correct. I went to model homes to test different ranges and the GE range worked well also Ferguson had a test kitchen for a couple of high end brands. Best of Luck!...See More- 15 years ago
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