Help with Zero entry, curbless Shower
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Comments (12)Mongoct/Live Wire Oak, Thanks for the replies. Here's a photo I took right after the hot mop was done. You see it terminates at the outer half wall surface with a 'lip' maybe 1" tall (I didn't measure it so just guessing). So that centered tile in the entry sits above that and during a normal shower the water line (water that splashes over the drain to the door) doesn't go past about halfway the thickness of those half walls or doesn't go past the glass door that's centered between those half walls. So if I understand what you're saying about the capillary break, the tiler should've physically separated the thinset/mud under the entry area tile by creating a physical divider barrier to separate it from the thinset/mud under the rest of the tiles on the bathroom floor? I'm picturing a thin vertical layer of sealant (or membrane) from the bottom of the tile surface through thinset all the way through the mud down to meet the hot mop 'lip'? That would then form a barrier and force the water that gets under the tile to stay in the pan and go back towards the drain. I'm still trying to get a feel for how much water could be sitting under my bathroom floor (worst case) or if it's limited to a few areas of damp thinset due to wicking that are showing up as dark grout spots (best case?). Relative to the amount of water that seems to be making it down the drain, how much water are we talking about that could be wicking out through the thinset/mud/grout? 10%? 20%? 50%? How long does it take for the water that eventually sits on the concrete slab to evaporate or absorb into the slab itself? And what damage would this cause long term assuming the water never makes it to any wood?...See MoreSmall Master Bath Remodel, Curbless Shower Help
Comments (9)The Cook B Correct! Have to create a slope to the drain - curbless means you need to place the drain lower than the floor in the bath. Otherwise you get water everywhere. The reason this matters? You said keep costs down. A funnel drain runs less than $30. A liner drain - drain alone, for that size can be $300 or more - plus the cost to slope your floor. Have you figured out how to slope your floor? Jack hammered concrete slab to slope floor down to linear drain - curbless shower entrance is just behind crystal stone wall:...See Morerules on having curb or curbless shower entry
Comments (3)Most all of europe and AUS require a secondary overflow drain it is smart as is the full wet room .DO IT. You have came to the wrong place to decipher what youve been told by 2 contractors. Contact your local building official and refer to TCNA/ANSI manuals as well as MFG specs for Best advice/definitive answers....See Morecurb-less shower
Comments (15)Megan it’s unfortunately a really serious mess. I have to say I’ve been reading Houzz forums for years and have seen some really bad tile installs, and this is one of the worst, if not THE worst, I’ve ever seen. There’s just no way that what’s under that tile could be correctly done. It has to be completely torn out and redone from scratch by someone competent. It is true that the type of entry you want is more difficult than a curbed entry, and it will and should cost more because of the time and skill it requires. But this person is so incompetent that I wouldn’t let them redo the work even if you switch to a curbed entry. When it is being torn out, take the best pictures you can of what’s underneath, layer by layer. Also take excellent pictures and video before it’s taken out, and if any of the materials the installer used are still in your house, take photos of those as well. Get any markings or labels that identify the materials into the photos. All of this will help you prove the installer did not follow the TCNA standards Dragonfly showed above, so you can hopefully recoup anything you’ve paid, and get out of paying the rest. I would also find a really good tile installer (I’m sure you thought the first one was that) and see if you can pay an hourly rate for them to come look at this before taking it out. Ideally get something from them in writing about the quality and correctness of the work. I’m sorry you have to deal with this....See MoreRelated Professionals
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