I finally got my call today! I was feeling left out. Man with thick accent said he had information about my computer. I could hear kids in the background. I was in the middle of starting dinner or I think I would have "played along" for a few minutes before hanging up. Instead, I just hung up, which is the best thing anyway.

Thanks raven. I looked at the first link you provided and I don't see anything that resembles what I had. So I still have a question. As I recall what popped up on my screen was something that looked like it came from Microsoft, said the computer was infected with a virus, and warned not to shut the computer off. It told me I should click to start the antivirus program. The first time it happened--when I fell for it--I assumed that it would run Windows Defender. My question is, then, does Microsoft ever do this? That is, if indeed I get a virus in the midst of searching the web, is there ever a legitimate Microsoft warning that pops up telling you not to shut the computer down and to click to run a scan? If not, then there's no problem with trying to find out what's legit and what is not. With whatever I got it was truly hard to tell. Thanks!

Just read the article linked or one of the other thousands you can find on Google about the Dns changer shut down. It is not a virus that will be released at all, the only ones who will have a problem are those that already have the infection and have done nothing to get rid of it. There have been sites set up for months now for people to go to and check to see if their pc and router are clean or not, this can also affect the routers. Visit one of the check sites to make sure you are clean. Here is a link that might be useful: Dns changer shut down

Martinca; who else in your family has joint pain? What I pasted in below is the 1st sign that this will probably be life long. I'm not sure they will get a good handle on it. Hyper-mobility of the joints is called EDS- Ehlers Danlos Syndrome (EDS) is a heterogeneous group of heritable connective tissue disorders, characterized by articular (joint) hypermobility, skin extensibility and tissue fragility. Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) is a group of inherited disorders that affect connective tissue. Take a look at the link below; it opens the direct PDF location; you can either open or save it. Back around May; I made a post about Chiari Malformation for a friend. One of the gals here mentioned that she has EDS & little did I know that this would smack me in the face in another 6 weeks after my post. I had no clue what EDS even was; but I'm learning a lot & it's why I haven't been around much the last few months. My daughter has been majorly suffering for 3 years; guess what? Her mystery diagnosis will most likely be EDS. We saw the 1st neuro yesterday; have to find a geneticist probably endocrinologist & rheumatologist. People can live with varying degrees of EDS; some may never know they have it while others are wrongly diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Still others will be fine until like your grand daughter; injure themselves & do not heal right. There is no "test" to confirm EDS; from what I understand it goes off of symptoms which are many. How are her teeth? Please be careful with braces; from what I'm reading they actually weaken teeth- which fits in with my daughter & how her teeth are breaking at the gum. Another issue is she may not be able to be put down for surgeries. My daughter had a molar pulled a few weeks ago; they couldn't get the IV meds to knock her out. Back to her ankle; from what I do understand; the right physical therapist; possibly chiro may be able to work with her to strengthen it. I dislike the word cured because from what I'm reading with others diagnosed; she's going to have to keep working at it but with the correctly trained people. Send me an email; I'll get you set up at a decent facebook group. Inspire also has an EDS board. she is 13. She's had X-rays and MRI . We 've been told she has hyper- mobility of the ankle caused by weak ligaments , and perhaps exacerbated by an injury( sprain). Two months of pt and home exercises only caused more pain and no improvement. Here is a link that might be useful: So You Think You Might Have EDS?