hahaha. dilbert I just found this thread a few minutes ago. I read down the thread and kept asking myself how come they dont take a few flowers and not spray them and a few flowers and spray them and notice the difference if any. The only reason I can think of is that once a person spends big money on a tiny spray they have a vested interest in taking the position that they did the correct thing. therefore they are only interested in showing that their spending of the money was the correct decision. they are not interested in finding out the entire thing is a hoax. No one is going to get on this thread and say they spent $20 on a hoax. Now a true scientist will do that. but not a normal person. so dilbert you are going to have to run the experiment yourself. of course it would be better if it was a double blind. meaning you did not know what sprayers had the chemical. you would just do the job and report the results and then you would find out after which sprayers had the chemical. but that is difficult to do. I suspect that there is some improvement. but the real question is how much. for example if you spend $20 and spray your vegetables and get $10 more vegetables it was again not so good. but again that is very difficult to measure. there are other organic sprays like Serenade that will protect plants and the cost is very minor. well it can be minor if you buy concentrate. so again you might have to compare the cost of $20 in spray from one item to less than a $1 cost to spray with another product. again a tricky experiment. but you are correct. someone has to do the first simple experiment of spraying some and not spraying other plants to see what happens. trying to keep everything else identical. by the way simple things like alfalfa pellets make a great organic tea with lots of benefits. is messanger better than the alfalfa tea. I am not so sure. of course the alfalfa tea can be sprayed on but it is often used generously on the roots because it is so low cost less than 1 cent per gallon compared to some $3 per gallon. the alfalfa tea does contain the major item in Super Thrive. I suspect that ST is simply an alfalfa tea. Now you can purchase 50 pounds of alfalfa pellets for less than the cost of a tiny ounce or so bottle of Super Thrive.

Kate, I live in the Bay Area, San Jose and as I posted on the other thread, I love this stuff! It made a great addition to my gardening routine for all my indoor and outdoor plants just by boosting their health and vigor. I wasn't trying to take care of any PM or BS although that PM not appearing on my crepe myrtles for a real noticeable difference compared to previous years made it an added bonus. It does not replace fertilizers and compost and amendments like alfalfa. You can try it, perhaps only doing part of your yard to see if you notice a difference. [rant] I wish these threads had an automatic notation when you get replies like the other forum I am on, as well as a link to go to the newest post, I get lost trying to find things and it takes so long to constantly scroll to find new posts. [/end rant]

Hi salbwil, Drop down for uninstall only. I wonder if this came from hotmail when I opened hotmail awhile back to clean it out as I am through with their changes all the time and taking over with everything. A person doesn't know if they are in windows live hotmail or hotmail or windows live mail? Started to go to hotmail but got scared when I seen the word default on the status bar when it was DL'ing so stopped. Was scared it would make it my default mail on it's own like was done the last time I was there. Finally solved that problem which shook me up to make me afraid to go there again.

If comcast.net mail, I think you can go to the link below for the Outlook Express set up. Or just open a blank window, or new tab before you check mail. Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=EmailOutlook_Express17686