Thermador, Wolfe, or Dacor?
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I Bake alot....Dacor/Miele/Thermador Double Oven?
Comments (14)I think if you set the oven to one temp and put your dish in and cook it you might not notice so much that it has a problem. If you turn up the temp from 350° to 400° it will read the temp as 400° immediately and the oven element will continue to oscillate (just as it does when finished preheating)and verrry slowly increase in temp over 20 minutes for the wall oven and it was initially 60 minutes for the range oven. The worst part was if you lost heat opening the door to bake cookies-multiple batches it would just continue to lose temp and no way for it to make up for the heat loss, so pretty soon you are trying to bake cookies at 250°. Dacor said that it was a recognized issue and they sent a new computer board, but it didnÂt fix it. I didnÂt realize at first that the range oven had the same problem because I tended to use it to bake or roast long term. Turning them off and on made no difference-that was my first thought. The only way I could get the oven to heat again was to turn the oven up to 550° and make the differential more than 200 degrees and watch the temp very carefully and turn it back to whatever temp I wanted it to be. The oscillation is meant to keep the temperature within very narrow parameters but it has no way to make up for increased heat loss of open doors or cold food load. The wall oven had the additional problem that the preheat would kick off long before it reached temp even though it would say it was preheated it was around 100 degrees too low and some functions the temp was way off. This may have been able to be fixed by calibration, but in all the service calls, Dacor did not choose to do this. It also baked unevenly. The door was on crooked and that could not be fixed. If you want to check your oven, you need an independent thermometer. I used an oven thermometer, but checked it with my range oven that did seem to be the right temp if preheated long enough. I also checked its lag time by placing the cold thermometer in a well heated 450° oven. It took 5 minutes to read 450°. This was the best I could do as far as trouble shooting myself and try to figure out why recipes I had made for years were not coming out right. Dacor offered me a third oven, to be delivered "the next week" but I never heard from them for the next month and no one would return my calls. I ended up going back to the original dealer and Dacor bought both appliances back. Believe me IÂve baked for along time and I did everything to try to get the ovens to work, tried every function and IÂm getting a headache just thinking about it! I have since come across 2 people with the high end Dacor oven and they have problems with food not getting done but the people did not know why. I also talked to an appliance person who had the same oven as I do and said she had no problems but didnÂt use it very much. When I read the Wolf manual about taking a very long time to increase heat, well IÂm kind of gun shy....See MoreAmerican Range, Dacor, or Thermador
Comments (4)I would spend a lotta time googling American Range Performer. I did find some reviews that complained about the simmer on American Ranges, but it was never mentioned in the post whether it was the sealed or open burner model. I would love to see American Range do well for 2 reasons. (1) They are very close to me in S Calif. (2) Blue Star and Capital need the competition to keep prices in check (which they are not right now) (gas ranges that cost more than some new cars)????? GIMMIE A BREAK, THEY DONT HAVE 1 GRAND OF PARTS IN THEM!!!!! Good luck on your hunt, if you can't find the posts I did, I will be happy to search them out again for you. Gary...See MoreWolf, Dacor Epicure, or Thermador Grand Pro?
Comments (8)I would avoid Dacor. The bezel cracked on our dual fuel range shortly after purchasing it---Dacor told us it needed to be "redesigned" and it took many months for them to "redesign" it, then finally to replace it. It cracked again anyway shortly after being replaced. It is unsightly, with 2 big cracks right on the front of the control panel. Our neighbors have the exact same range and have had the exact same problem. We were told the second time around that this time we would need to pay to replace it ourselves--for a whopping $350 just for the part!! We haven't been able to scrape the money together so everyone who visits our kitchen sees it and comments. Leaves a VERY bad taste in our mouth for Dacor......See MoreKitchen: Wolf 36 Gas Range w/ Griddle & Wolf v Dacor Range
Comments (9)Do you use a griddle now? I would consider an overlay griddle instead of a built in. The one I have(Royal industries)is 15”x23” and is about 50% bigger than a 2 burner built in. I have a Wolf range. It can be bigger because it is made of heavy aluminum which has much better heat transfer properties than steel so heats more evenly. It comes in bare aluminum which seasons over time and nonstick. With a built in you have about half of the power, somewhere around 15K BTUs. You can set the griddle anywhere you want or you have the flexibility of using all six burners. I have picked up my griddle and put it in the oven. You can take it to the sink to clean. These are Royal Industry overlays. They are pretty inexpensive. http://royalindustriesinc.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_22_48 Chef King makes a similar griddle out of steel. With the built in, you have a thermostat so you can repeatedly turn it in to a certain temperature and get that amount of heat. If you go this way, look how the different brands are built. Wolf uses an infrared burner to get a more even heat. The steel is twice as thick as BlueStar. BlueStar uses this burner on the RNB griddle. Thermador uses an aluminum griddle and an electric element....See Morejellytoast
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