what about the cadet 3's quality was questionable? from everything i've read here on the forums it seems to be a highly rated, reasonable priced product. run a search. there have been many discussions related to this particular unit.

I understand that if you're used to toilet backs being very close to the wall, it might look weird to have one a couple of inches out. But in my house, one toilet's cover almost hits the wall, another is about 1 3/4" out and the third is a good 2 1/2" from the wall. I never even noticed it until I decided to replace them and measured the rough-in (by measuring the distance from the wall to the bolts). At first I thought I had one 12" rough-in, and two 14" - which wasn't at all pleasant because the selection of 14" rough-in toilets is dismal. It was only when I went back and measured again that I realized the toilets were not the same distance from the wall. I guess the builders just weren't consistent. So I don't share the sentiment of most commenters here, and would say that unless there's some substantive reason that no one has mentioned, and you don't think it's going to bother you personally, go for the 12" rough-in Toto.

The standard offset is 12", however they also make toilets in both 10" & 14" offsets for special applications. The 14" offset toilets are rarely used today and you will probably not find them in stock, but they are readily available by special order and they can usually delivered within a couple days to a week. Toto makes a couple models that are field adjustable from 10" to 14"

LOL I had to Google to see what a 10" rough in designer toilet even was. Gee DOH I guess I am so sheltered. Still not sure what the 10 inch means. I was thinking you were meaning one of those oval toilets that look like a hat box sitting on the floor. I think they are kind of neat. Look easy to clean. Good luck hope you find what you are looking for. Many showed up on my Google search. Chris