What is the smallest staircase that adheres to code?
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Comments (33)If I was willing to live with a 9" tread at the 12" walk-line I would make the stair width 44 1/2 inches and be done with it. To maintain the 48" wide stair you would have to reduce the number of stair treads or allow the tread at the 12" walk-line to be less than 9". It appears that the 1 & 2 family dwelling code in Cleveland is the 2006 IRC but it is not clear to me if it has been modified by amendments. In any case here it is: R311.5.3.2 Tread depth. "The minimum tread depth shall be 10 inches. The tread depth shall be measured horizontally between the vertical planes of the foremost projection of adjacent treads and at a right angle to the tread's leading edge. The greatest tread depth within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch. Winder treads shall have a minimum tread depth of 10 inches measured as above at a point 12 inches from the side where the treads are narrower. Winder treads shall have a minimum tread depth of 6 inches at any point. Within any flight of stairs, the largest winder tread depth at the 12 inch walk line shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch." Even if this building code has been modified locally, because it is has been the national standard for so many years, I would insist that the designers adhere to it. Ask them what code they are using and why it might be more appropriate than the IRC. I've designed enough buildings to know that being reputable doesn't mean you can't make a seemingly amateurish mistake....See MoreBest Layout for smallest useable kitchen? Part 2
Comments (101)Sorry, it’s been a long day. A lot of people here today, the designer and a team from the contractor and my head is spinning. As it turns out, you were all right. The designer arrived with 10ft of floor space instead of 7ft, needed by the staircase, which I was pretty frustrated about. Rebunky, I forgot to ask about the fire code but there’s no concern there, because the stairway and entry will be completely walled off from the garage. I don’t want an open stairway in the garage to the apartment. The garage will have an opener with a remote, so there should be no problem walking into the garage to access their storage. At this point, Sena, I’m feeling a little lack of trust in the figures and I’m going to have to have him confirm every measurement I’m using. I haven’t sat down to think about the layout again today. We had a lot to go over today and that was just one of many. As soon as I can, I’ll look it over again and see what I am willing to do to accommodate that. I am not going to go for part of the stairway on a second wall. I’d still like to see if I could keep the stairway in the middle and out of the bedroom and living room. Which would probably mean starting the stairway back on the North wall all the way in the corner, but I need a 5ft landing on the garage level, then 10ft of stairway and a landing at the top. So if I add 4ft so a total of 33ft in length, maybe that would get the stairway in the middle? That’s it for me tonight. Thanks for checking in with me....See MoreWhat's the smallest house you would want to live in?
Comments (109)Right now we are in a 1923 square foot condo. 3 BR/2Bth. It's just a bit too small for us. The third bedroom doubles as DH's office so when we have guests (and we have plenty since we're in FL for 1/2 the year) he loses his office. The third bedroom is my studio and it's just about the right size. Our living room/dining room/ kitchen could all be a bit bigger and when we have guests it would be nice to have an extra 1/2 bathroom. We also have 4 balconies; three of which are never used. We are building a new house that will greatly increase our living space because we intend to live much of our time outdoors. Our new house will be 2600 sq feet on a 65 x 93 lot. DH will now have his own study downstairs and we'll have a separate guest bedroom with a murphy bed which will double as our gym. We will have a much larger living/dining/kitchen area for entertaining; something we don't have room to do right now. While the majority of our time is spent in our offices, we do use all our condo now and expect to use all of our new build too. Anything that wouldn't be used, I got rid of....See MoreRemoving old servant's staircase for open concept kitchen
Comments (23)We have ~5,600 sf above grade, and a full basement. The third floor was still very much set up to be live in servant's quarters: the 'bedroom' on the left that shows a sink and stove was still a little kitchen designed for the help to use. Our lifestyle does not include live-in help, so we wanted to redo that anyway ;) The servants' stairs were the only access to the third floor- the main stairs don't go up there. Our kitchen-in-four-parts had last been renovated in the 1940s with stainless steel cabinets that found a happy new home with neighbors who have a period-correct house for them! The doors that walled the kitchen area off from the rest of the house literally had different finishes on each side: high end quarter oak floors on the 'family' side of the house, unvarnished pine on the 'servant' side of the house, for example. It was fun to see, but so very impractical for how we use the house these days. Great that you've already investigated what's required- surprises are the worst when undertaking big projects. While a serious undertaking, if you think this addition would be a better use of space for your family and you would include finishes true to the house's heritage... in my book that's worth considering. And while in real life I describe myself as a historical purist, I'm obviously squarely in the 'doesn't deserve to be a steward of a historic house' camp according to many users on this site ;)...See Morevirgilcarter
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