20'-6' too shallow for a garage?
jaymielo
17 years ago
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So I planted too shallow...
Comments (16)Thanks, Seil! That Tropical Punch one is from Meijer via Windmill Pan American Nursery in Canada (same is the Double Time that everyone thought looked like Paradise but is probably something that was hybridized by that nursery) -- it is orange and looks a lot like the Tropicana from what I can tell (hasn't bloomed yet) I decided to dig out and replant two today, figured I might as well get started since we had some rain last night. I started with my backyard bed which is along the back porch and did the Orangeade, after planting the bud union below the ground there were shoots and leaves coming up in a couple different areas, giving the look of two + plants... I noticed some wilted looking transplant shock but some of it has already straightened back out, just a few droopy leaves. In that bed after the Orangeade are Sunsprite, CL New Year, and Arizona, all of which I planted properly with the bud union under ground. Next up is the Hot n Spicy followed by Tropical Punch (which I did not replant today)...here is a pic of the replanted Hot n Spicy same thing happened with the multiple plant look on my Hot n Spicy once I got the bud union under ground. It was not tough to do but I was stressed out because I so did not want to hurt the plants and was very worried about them! So how do you deal with the multiple plant look or should I cut back some? Train it to grow together? So much to learn! I appreciate the help from another Michigan person :) and anyone else who wants to chime in!!...See MoreShould we add a Shallow Pantry?
Comments (25)mama_goose - Thanks so much for the suggestion! If we could afford custom doors with glass for the pantry, I think it would need to be safety glass (since we have a little one), but - I will keep your suggestion in mind for future cabinet projects! Thanks! blfenton - Thank you for your reply! I put a 12" deep piece of furniture there last night, and it does feel a bit cramped. I think we're going to need to go with something smaller, if anything. lavender - I don't think that we can exchange our doors anymore since too much time has passed. But - I am definitely going to keep the glass with shirred fabric idea in mind for future projects. (I hope to one day replace the Ikea doors with more traditionally styled wood Shaker doors, and swap out the countertops for soapstone or granite.) Thanks again for your wonderful ideas! They are giving me so much to look forward to. :) taggie - Thank you for your reply and kind compliment! After living with a 12" piece of furniture there, I think 9" is the max that I want to go for the pantry so it doesn't feel so claustrophobic. DH has plans to put an end panel on the side that opens to the kitchen - but, it is a plain, flat panel - not shaker style. Hopefully it won't look too bad... marcolo - Thanks for your reply! We won't make it flush to the wall. Bellsmom - Thanks so much for the mockup! I'm afraid that DH isn't up for such a big undertaking though. It looks like we're 1eaning toward the 9" deep pantry the whole way across. But, thank you again for your thoughtful suggestion and mockup! dianalo - Thanks for your reply! Option B and sticking with the simple doors now (with perhaps some glass doors in the future), is the direction we are leaning. bmorepanic - Thank you for your thoughtful reply! I'm concerned about 21" wide doors opening into the space too. The only way around it would be to use 3 12" wide doors and lose 6" of space. In order to line up with the fridge cabinets, the max amount of space that we have to work with is 42". I wish it was 45", since then we could have done 3 15" doors. Sigh. DH isn't willing to lose the 6" of space. If the 21" doors become a huge issue, we could always change it up down the line. Also, I think we're going to stick with a 9" depth all the way across. DH will have to cut wall cabinets down in size. As for dining room usage - that is yet to be seen. We're not using it yet as it's still under construction (and was DH's workshop in the winter). It does have another opening that is much larger, from the foyer. I think biggest problem will be congestion with people using the garage entrance. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Another mini update - After trying out a 12" deep piece of furniture where the pantry will go - we're going to aim for a 9" depth. It will let the space breathe a bit more, and should allow for 7.5" wide shelves once the full overlay doors and fridge end panel are taken into consideration. The plan is for the pantry to house seldomly used things - like duplicates of food items, cans of soup and veggies, that type of thing. We don't want it to be a place where people linger or use frequently (to avoid traffic jams). Cereal and snacks will go to the right of the fridge (nice and out of the way of people using the sink and stove) - and frequently used cooking supplies will go in the cabinetry by the stove. The doors will stay simple for now - with the hope of adding some glass in the future. Thank you taggie and marcolo for the warning about bringing the cabinetry flush to the wall. I'm embarrassed to admit that we DID in fact make this amateur mistake in other areas of our kitchen (it was either that, or we would of had to lose 6" of cabinetry or do major construction to the wall). DH is comfortable with it flush; he believes in function over form, and the doorway openings are straight (he said that if the walls weren't straight, he would have stopped the cabinetry a few inches from the wall). Being a perfectionist, I'm bummed that we made such a rookie mistake, but I'm going to have to let it go. Thank you all, again!!!...See MoreAre 18' Deep Cabs to shallow....
Comments (11)I'm trying to imagine 18s. I have 15" uppers in my hutch and 16s in my laundry room (original site built). I really like the 13s and 15s better, but it may be how they are used. At a certain point you start stacking things in front of other things and loosing some of the usefulness. One thing I do not miss is digging into the back of cabinets -- especially base cabinets. I just remembered the other side of my island is 21" deep. The sink base if the only one that really storage on that side and I went and measured. If it weren't for the plumbing in the back 7", I really wouldn't loose much. Looks like even the big dog food container I have (holds 15-20 lbs) would fit in a 15" deep. I'd measure the things you want to store and make it deep enough for them, but try not to make it too much deeper and tempt yourself to start stacking stuff in layers that get cluttered adn harder to get to anything. BTW, I just measured -- the soda 12 packs are about 16" long and the water bottle cases are about 15 or a bit less. If you would want to put soda 12 packs in lengthwise -- that would push to the 18s. When I get to replace the cabinets in my laundry room (so I can have a counter -- albeit a shallow one) I am going to do a shallow hutch variation and replace those 16s. I don't think I can go to 18, so I will probably do 15's with 13s above. I plan to take the cabinets over the washer and dryer to the ceiling so I can put seasonal things in there and free up a bit of space in the kitchen. I know I measured canning jars, but not sure about water bottles or soda -- this was good (extras are currently in the garage). If you want to put a fridge -- beverages, wine or whatever, you can always offset the cabinets and cover that 6" or whatever on the other side with a narrow panel to match the cabinets. You might even give it some thought and come up with a nifty use for that spot. Maybe it's a door that opens and has a place to hang keys, have a corkboard for tacking coupons, hang some tools, ruler, scissors -- lots of things can fit in the depth of a door frame if you have them make an opening in the side as they would if it was a corner cabinet. You could put a backing across it so you didn't open it up to see the back of the fridge. Just a thought ----...See MorePlanting roses in shallow ground
Comments (17)I bought my mother - in - law an own root rose called Dee-lish a few years ago. I thought it would be an annual for her. I did plant it.... she is NH and has granite too... I could not dig down very far.... but planted it.... in the fall she covers it with pine needles.... I am surprised it hasn't died.... but as of last year it is still going..... I do not know what long term this rose will do.... I do know when I drive around in her area I see lots of roses and most are not in raised beds..... I do not know if they are directly over granite or not!...See Morebj_inatlanta
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