Help! Last chance to change plan: Is 15x20 grt. room big enough
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Comments (16)Dave - For attaching coverings, we've used the batten tape that you staple thru to hold on the plastic (works fine, but get hold of a power stapler, as that many staples the old fashioned way will cramp the hands), lath with screws, and the C-channel with the wiggle wire (aka poly-lock). I love the poly lock & will never go back to the other. On the other hand, 1000' of the batten tape is $40 and the other is a few $$ a foot. We run small GH business, so are replacing covering on one building or another every couple years. Time savings is huge with the poly lock products. You mentioned the tubing heating - yes, it will heat some & over a long time that can probably weaken the plastic -- but most poly's are UV stabilized for only 4 years max & you'll be replacing before you need to worry about it. We haven't covered our frames before applying plastic & no problems to date with that. Beware of contact with pvc type products, however (especially those that are UV resistant) as they will react with your poly & wear it out sooner. As for making your own frame, I recommend being aware of the thickness of the tubing wall & the spacing of your bows. Most of the units you purchase should be higher thickness than the conduit you purchase at local hardware store. We have 4 commercial grade GH's that have taken nearly 2' of snow load on top in bad conditions, but one hoophouse we built from conduit for overwintering perennials went down in a heap during an overnight MN snowstorm. Sometimes the extra $$ is convenience & sometimes it's worth the avoided ulcer. Since most home insurers don't cover your GH structures, you're self insuring your entire investment.....both $$ and time :) Above all, have fun.....they can be an amazing cure for the wintertime blues!!!!!...See Morelast chance for narrow leaf plantain
Comments (20)Susan, No actually I didn't but that's always a possibility with the plant rummage sale. I'm kind of glad that my plant mailings are winding down now because I have my plants to start planting outside now that it's nice out. Of course, I think we're supposed to get some rain again this week, but I believe it's supposed to be nice for the most part. My dad ran the rototiller just a little bit today until my mom reminded him that he had his good shoes on. He shut the rototiller off then because he knew he'd never hear the end of it. lol I suspect that he'll be back tomorrow to do some more. I hope not too many weeds grow before I get it all planted because our son is coming up from VA for a visit later this week and will be here almost a weeek. Of course, I want to spend my time with him and not outside working, so the garden will probably sit awhile waiting on me. There's not really too much to my garden yet to enjoy actually. All that has bloomed here so far is the daffodils and hyacinths. The lilacs bloom next month. I don't really have too many early-blooming plants. Linda, Yes, I have been busy and now I'm too tired to plant the garden. lol I have so much to plant and it will take me awhile. Ha, I probably make it sound like I'm planting an acre but it's not anywhere near that big. It's just that I'm not real young anymore and it takes so long to get things done because of my back. You're welcome for the weed ID site. I found it doing a google search for narrowleaf plantain. I thought that that's what I had but wanted to make absolutely sure before I sent it to people. MaryAnn, Well, isn't that a bummer that a parking lot went in where you found cats before. A lot of things that people call progress, I don't agree with. If it were up to some people, the whole world would be houses and pavement. I'm glad that there is still a big area left for the cats in that park and hope it stays that way. Little by little people keep swallowing up nature. Paul, I must have been deprived as a child because I don't remember doing that and it must have surely been here then, I guess. It sounds like you and MaryAnn had lots of fun with the plantain as kids. Mike, You're welcome, and I hope you have a lot more Buckeye butterflies and cats this year. I'm excited just knowing that the plantain might help increase the numbers there. Angie, I'm glad that you're happy with the plantain and you're very welcome. I don't know if everyone will read the replies I wrote to them since it's been awhile since I started this thread. It seems like my time is limited these days and I don't get on here as much as I'd like to. Cathy...See Moreplease review. Last chance before construction plans
Comments (16)Be sure to post your 1st floor plans on the kitchens forum for good layout feedback. For example: Most prep is done between the fridge and cooktop, and your counters near there are all short and broken up (unless that's a single under-counter oven on the cooktop wall - not sure.) Please don't build the lower wall next to your cooktop/range. It will limit your landing space and I don't see the purpose. The cooktop in that space without the lower wall will be much more practical. (Imagine taking a big pot off the stove... where can you put it? Not next to the stove - the walls are in the way.) Once that wall is gone I'd move the range a bit down the wall so it's farther from the upper wall. Your island is a barrier between the sink and the fridge (for washing fruit, veggies, etc.) It would be great to have a prep sink in the island for that. Also, if someone is sitting at the island, you won't have landing space for the fridge. Consider having the island overhang in an L shape: right side and part of bottom. Left of bottom is landing space for fridge and room for prep sink. Sitting at an L means people can speak to each other more easily than if they were all in a line. I'd offset the pantry door to one side or the other so it doesn't break up your cabinet / fridge run. That way you'll get landing space next to the fridge. I'd probably put it on the right (in the picture) so the fridge is closer to the range, but that depends on whether you access pantry items more frequently than fridge items while cooking. Not sure if your ovens are in the best spot. The ovens limit that space and right now open into the opening between the front hall and kitchen, which is likely more traveled than the opening between kitchen and DR. I think I'd prefer to have the ovens in the upper left corner and leave a nice long counter run by the cooktop. I hope you're planning on all or mostly drawers for your lower kitchen cabinets. Great for access and organization. (See thread below.) Here is a link that might be useful: Drawers vs pull out shelves...See MoreLast Chance for Critics before we finalize cabs/ pick stone!
Comments (31)Well, my granite person that the builder sent me to sent me a collection of stone this morning he had found and they were AWFUL! Absolutely horrible. Some of them were not even blue- they were GRAY with tiny blue specs! I told him that there wasn't one slab I would even go and look at in person :( So, now I'm doing my own research to find someone who might carry what I want and if he can't get it for me, I'll just buy it separately and have it installed myself. I am very upset :( The pop out bathroom shelf thing, I'm going to have something kind of similar to this fabricated, except our tiles our bigger and I want it to kind of pop out when you press the tile front, like those magnetic cabinets do. That way, you won't see bottles or other stuff in the shower: Since no one is cooking really anyway, I guess it won't matter if my sink is directly opposite my stove. I really think I'm going to end up leaving it that way b/c the asymmetry would drive me nuts. I am just so upset about the bad blues :(...See Morezone_8grandma
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