We have a Dacor MOV230S double wall oven which has served us very well since I installed it in May 2009. We have no real complaints, except for a some slight difficulty we experience while relocating the racks. (Our old Bosch just seemed to allow the racks to be moved around with greater ease.) Only one full extension glide rack is provided by Dacor even though there are two oven. There are plenty of regular (75% or so extension) racks. Extra full extension glide racks can be purchased but they are rather expensive. (Be careful when ordering extra glide racks because the Dacor part numbering system is a dyslexic's nightmare.) I initially wanted to get a second glide rack, but that desire has subsided as we use the lower oven less often - plus the regular racks extend rather far anyway and removing a heavy item from the lower oven is not at all difficult. For us, the preheat time is very fast...10 to 12 minutes is typical. It is about twice the speed of the old Bosch. When we bake cookies, every one comes out great. And the meat probe works just fine...although I do wish the beeper was very much louder. The beep is actually adjustable in tone and volume, but I wish it would allow me to set it even louder. It makes only one beep upon the predetermined probe temperature being reached. If the tone repeated every 30 seconds or so until you disabled it, that would be nice. I'd check out the Miele for this feature. I also wish the control panel would stay lit all the time so the clock was usable when the oven was idle. The time is always displayed, but without the backlighting, the clock is very hard the read. On the old Bosch, the clock was illuminated all the time. I don't know if the Miele display lighting goes off during idle periods. If so, I suspect their clock would likewise not be easily seen then. Our neighbor has a 30" Miele double wall oven (sorry - don't know the model) and they like it very much. I will say that the Miele control panel is extremely nice, even fancier than our Dacor control panel. Antss comment is valid:"...it makes me wonder how they (Dacor) use less robust (cheaper) materials, don't have to charge oversea shipping, duties, and currency arbitrage, lower wages, and still manage to be the same price?" Had we not found a store display model Dacor at a phenomenal price (>75% off!), we would probably have ended up with a Miele or perhaps even the LG double wall oven. As stated, we are very pleased with the Dacor. And believe it or not, even with the amazingly low price we paid, Dacor still gave us a 7 piece set of their "hot dots" cookware when we registered the oven.

flogal, I guess I did misread your post. I took it to mean he would not sell it for 2400 bucks - A price you thought was fair. I'm sorry. Lt is not generally recognised as less than. (This is not a professional forum, anyone can join and while there are architects, designers, and appliance guys here, there are also retirees, soccer moms, and just plain obsessed folks here too. Humor goes a long way around here, but I'm sorry if you misinturpreted my post. I can direct you to a pro forum if you'd like. The screen in the rear of the oven will get dirty/discolored especially if you cook something with a lot of grease. It's there to keep the fan blades clean. You can wash it in the dishwasher. Regarding the Thermador, I think that oven is more than the Miele new.

Hi Grace, I love my Poggenpohl kitchen!! I worked with Ellen Mclean at the 23rd street showroom i NYC and she was amazing. The design and craftmanship are outstanding.The kitchen both looks great and functions really well. I have the Segmento model with integrated refrigerator and dishwasher which I recommend.I have the Miele combi steam oven and the 30 inch convection. Both fantastic. I have the Master chef oven that has the rotisserie capability and have used that often. The auto roast function is well worth the oven-have made perfect roasts.I have gone to some cooking classes at the Miele Exoerience center and they are so helpful with information and recipes. I am so happy I went with the Miele appliances. I have the 36" wolf contemporary cooktop which is flush with counter- looks good in my kitchen island. If I can, I will post some photos. What are you considering? Happy to answer any other questions.

@Mr Kyle I'm also interested in your question. In my home we have a non Miele 30" convection oven and a 24" Miele CSO. We end up using the Miele CSO for most cooking because it's more energy efficient with the use of space and does most everything the CO does and more. We end up using the larger 30" oven (without steam injection) for when we want to do homemade Neapolitan pizzas on a pizza steel, and for baking two sourdough loaves at a time (crockpot method or wetted mixing bowl on top method), which is our typical use case. Essentially, it's used 10% of the time. We sometimes use the MagicChef settings when we know what's going on with time, temperature, and humidity level for each step. Miele seems to have done away with sharing that information in recent ovens that have MagicChef Plus, so we would be less inclined to get something new from them.