FWIW: There is a rumor I read once, that Black Jack is just a sport of Black Mission. The main difference between the two is the growth of the trees, Black Jack being a more natural semidwarf, black mission eventually getting rather large as figs go. Or so I understand. My personal experience with Black Jacks and Black Missions is that the fruits look and taste exactly the same.

Hi everyone, A few months back I decided to go with IKEA cabinets (which came out to about $6K. I shopped around with some local cabinet makers but they were all more than twice as much. Then I met with Yorktowne Cabinet dealers and they offered their Silver like for roughly $8-9K. The trick is that IKEA will cost about $4K in installation while Yorktowne is only $1500. Then, someone told me about Costco AllWood cabinets. They are about $8K (already assembled) plus the labor to install them. I've read about other cabinet makers on this site and that seems to widen the choices as opposed to help me figure out what to do. My main concern is to get a budget kitchen that is good quality. If the quality is going to hold up, I don't really care about the brand label or the wood type. I also want good quality hardware that won't break on me in the first 5 years. I am also not too thrilled that Costco does not offer frameless - but is that a big deal? Any advice on how to proceed? THANK YOU!

Ikea price is hard to beat. I have a kitchen and bath store in the DC area moved it from Orlando (don't know how to change my name on here. I have not studied Ikea cabinets enough to understand why you would state the install on Ikea is so much higher. That does not make much sense to me. I have over 100 Ready To Assemble cabinets I offer to my local customers. The going rate for to assemble my cabinets is about $15-$18 each. Installation after assembly is pretty much the same. So be careful of the price difference you have there. All wood cabinets from costco are excellent quality. I personaly do not agree with the stigma that Ikea is superior beyone belief to other products out there. Who says they are the only company with frameless products that are any good! I have yet to meet some one who even knows what part of the world they are made in. Ikea offers a 25 year warranty. All wood thru costco is limited lifetime. If you find a independent dealer who sells them you should get a better price. We get them at 50% less than Costco does. Allwood pays for all merchandising and designs for costco. I can beat costco's price without breaking a sweat for example. Any dealer in your area with reasonable markups should do the same. 6 square cabinets is another product lines that ships in 2 weeks that is comperable in price to All wood with a limited life time warranty. Brandom Cabinets is a limited life time warranty semi custom cabinet company that allows choice of colors for approx 1.5 times the cost of Ikea. It seems strange to me that you are being pushed for a cabinet design by a contractor before you have decided what you are going to buy. That is a big red flag to me you are getting the cart before the horse. Be careful

I have the same Bosch as sjhockeyfan and love it for all the same reasons. I am still learning what "4" and "6" will do, exactly (for example), but I love that 4 today is the same as 4 yesterday, so when I start using it every day (don't live there yet) it will be even more wonderful. And I haven't even figured out the timers yet, need to get that manual out one of these days. Love cleaning it up, though. I have gas at home now and there's a lot of cussing whenever something goes down between those grates...