Refrigerator WITHOUT ice maker, counter depth
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Comments (11)I have an all KA kitchen though it is 15 years old ~Superba model on all including the dishwasher and compactor and double wall oven (I never use the convection option and just go regular all the time because I couldn't tell the difference). I don't really see why anyone needs this feature (convection) after I paid so much for it since they were all the rage at the time (late '90's). I was a flight attendant then and we had convection ovens on the airplanes back when they actually still served hot meals and I remember being able to heat 30 frozen meals in 30 minutes and thought wow I have to have that in my kitchen but I don't ever use it. Thankfully you can either use that option or not. It was crazy expensive at the time since it was new. Back then it was either $1800 or $2200 I can't remember now for the whole double oven wall unit with convection. We also have a Kitchen Aid waste disposer. None of them have given me a minute of trouble except this year I did replace the disposal when I changed countertops and sink and it seemed a prudent thing to do while we were at it. When we built our house I had brought over my fairly new refrigerator an Amana side by side and that is the reason I had to recently replace that with the KA FD. The Amana was 18 years old and it was a great opportunity to get the new style and get rid of the very dated old style refrigerator. I kept waiting for it to die but finally just went for it last year so now everything in the kitchen is KA. I really wish that KA was exactly as it was. Fifteen years ago it was the equivalent of having Porche level appliances in the kitchen. Back then very few people were able to get Sub Zero or any of the other Euro made appliances and Ktichen Aid ruled and I recall thinking wow I am now officially "snooty" having these high end kitchen appliances in my bad azz kitchen. I remember being really proud to have Kitchen Aid like I had really "arrived"... ha ha. It was so much fun. I am easily entertained... : / I am just so sorry the American brands are being thrown over for the other brands and I don't blame anyone and I would do it myself if I really thought it would be worth it. I am saddened that everything is made overseas now. It sort of makes me freak out a little everyday when everything I pick up has a made in China tag on it. Even if they are assembled here the parts are made in China. I really love my Kitchen Aid dishwasher. It's a beast, it will clean anything and barely ever need to use anything more than the short cycle or normal. Once in awhile I will use the longer cycles if I have something in there that's a mess. I don't have any way to know if the new ones clean as well but for me with what I have it's thumbs up all the way....See MoreHelp point me towards a counter-depth refrigerator
Comments (33)It's funny, a2gemini. I originally was going to buy an Electrolux fridge until I started reading reviews - I remember a miz lizzy in particular. This was a while ago but you get this vision in your head that has water leaking on the soon to be installed hardwood, or a fridge full of food going bad a week after the warranty runs out and you say no way. Then you start to pick other contenders and low and behold they get nasty reviews too. Lol, I think I picked the Bosch partly because I can't find ANY reviews! I do know this. Anything will be better (storage wise, and big/bulky wise than what I have now- which btw is a rebadged electrolux/Frigidaire SxS. One of the things I hate about this one (other than what's mentioned above) are the wire racks in the freezer that keep falling off the rails. And guess what? The bosch has wire baskets too. I haven't seen an elux in a long time but I do remember the drawers in the fridge section were very smooth and easy to pull out. What's the freezer like? I did like the fridge portion of the bosch as well. Oh, and thanks for your post hvtech. It reminded me to call the store and ask who services the appliances and about extended warranties....See MoreCountertop Ice Makers
Comments (9)You can buy a countertop ice machine that will make a small amount of ice for about $200. Then you can buy an ice crusher machine for another $100 or so. The ice maker won't have a hookup to a water line, so you'll have to manually add water when you want ice. It won't store the ice in a freezer section either, it'll just melt and be reused to freeze again. The "storage" is just a small bin that you'll have to dump to put in your freezer if you want to accumulate any stockpile of ice larger than a soda bottle. The ice crusher can do about a drink's worth of ice at a time, and you'll have to either leave both small appliances on the counter all the time or drag them out when you want ice and crushed ice. If you want a restaurant type ice maker/crusher, you'll spend $4k or so and it'll be noisy, unservicable in your home, need a drain, and be a big energy hog as it won't store ice in a freezer compartment either. Now, you can get a domestic ice maker for undercounter installation, but they aren't that quiet or energy efficient, and none store the ice in a freezer compartment either. They will keep producing ice all day long though, so you will have a "unlimited" amount of ice available. All will require a water hookup, and will need some type of drain, either gravity or an optional pump purchased. There is always the manual ice tray that you pop the cubes out of, and then buy a separate ice crusher for those few occasions you want crushed ice. My mother lives with such a fridge even now and refuses to go to a in fridge ice maker. Having been spoiled by an in fridge one, I'll never go back, but that's just me. Ice makers are on homeowner refrigerator freezers because of the convenience factor. Yes, they break more often than any other portion of the refrigerator. But, to get any other type of setup requires a lot of money and space and inconvenience of different types. It's cheaper to just pay the service call on a domestic model regular ice maker when it breaks than to dedicate the money/time/space to any other setup....See MoreCounter Depth Refrigerator
Comments (18)I have two old R12 fridges in an unheated garage and there is a noticeable difference in their operation, summer and winter. But it’s nothing I’m concerned about because they are full of beer; but the temperature fluctuations I can tolerate for a bottle of beer may not be suitable for food. So, you pays your money and you takes your choice. There’s nothing to stop you putting your fridge in an igloo, if you want to, but it may not work as well as it would in a nice heated kitchen where it was intended to go.. But here are two plausible reasons why a minimum temperature limit is suggested by manufacturers and may affect the operation. The first will be familiar to split air conditioning engineers as over condensing. If the condenser is too cold there is a possibility of the refrigerant gaining too much sub-cooling, reduced condenser pressure and reduced flow through the capillary tubes feeding the evaporator. In other words, there will be a reduction in the machine’s capability to do its work. This may result in damage, long term. Hydrocarbons (R-600 and the like) obey the same laws of thermodynamics as everything else. Their transport properties are selected to be close to the conventional CFC and HFC refrigerants https://bestoutdooritems.com/best-outdoor-refrigerator/ The second reason will be familiar to people from the old school of refrigeration who worked on butcher’s cold rooms that were often outside the backs of shops in all weathers. It can affect some types of thermostats (not all, just some) where the temperature inside the fridge is warmer than the temperature outside in the winter. If parts of the stat, say its bellows, are mounted on the outside facia, the gas charge inside the stat can condense in the bellows section at low temperatures and cause it to give very erratic control. This is quite rare, but it can happen, even with a domestic fridge....See Moremominator61
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