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Personally I think this is a really interesting discussion. I am an engineer at Honda R&D near Columbus, OH. At my location, there are over a thousand white collar workers, mostly technical. Within a hundred mile radius of me, there are a 4 Honda assembly plants, employing around 10,000 people. At other sites in the US and Canada, there are probably another 15,000 workers. Each of these plants is turning out thousands of new Hondas per day. Nearly every Honda/Acura sold in the US (by volume) is made in the US. The engines, transmissions, every major component. Furthermore, Honda actually *exports* cars from the US, something that the Big 3 can barely talk about. Sure, there are niche cars like the S2000 roadster that are 100% Japanese, but that is a tiny part of our market. I think these are pretty impressive numbers, especially if you consider that Honda is only something like the 7th largest market share in the US. Its been here since 1979, I'd wager that in those 27 years Honda has contributed significantly to Americans and their way of life. There are a lot of secure $25/hr plus full benefits jobs available in Ohio because of Honda. The US auto industry lost their way in the oil crises. They haven't been able to turn it around since then. They concentrate too much on short-sighted markets like giant fuel-guzzling SUVs. Its not that the Big 3 makes bad cars, its that they make cars that aren't in demand. Compare a Focus to a Civic. A Taurus to an Accord. Sure, those Fords might last 200k miles, but I'd much rather spend that time in a nice Accord than a hard plastic Taurus. I would rather support the thousands of American workers who build Hondas than support a few suits in Detroit and drive a Mexican Dodge. That said, my garage: 1980 Lawn Boy 7229 1996 Stihl trimmer 1997 Honda Accord (shocking, right?) 2002 Triumph Speed Triple (mc) 1976 Honda CB400F (mc) 1976 Suzuki GT550 2-stroke (mc) 1948 Johnson Sea Horse (outboard) 1949 Evinrude Zephyr (outboard)

The car lunatic will be here soon to collect all the car bits from the papers saved for him. While i'm typing this I'm looking at that monstrosity with the fold up roof. He'd love it. Of course since he bought his RAV4 he has done nothing but complain about the price of petrol and car depreciation. So if you buy that thing does the value drop thousands of dollars as soon as you drive it out of the showroom? Guess i'm just a stingebag.

Glenda...Sorry you lost the barn. What is supporting the panel at top of photo. Looks like it's levitating! :Q) Seriously, good luck with the cleanup and watch out for nails, rusty or not. I saw my first tornado when very young, near Mtn. View (ARK). It cleaned off the top of a mtn west of us and was overhead when it passed us, all crouched in the root cellar. Cristie... I've been through the kitchen remod scenario, in 2003, due to a small fire in the basement that did a lot of structural damage to the 1st level floor. It started badly, as the person who did the measurements, made several mistakes and we wound up with cabinets that were wrong size. The delivery people refused to set the cabinets in the kitchen, they were going to leave them on the porch(uncovered). I immediately called to cancel the job. They then had second thoughts and put them in the kitchen. Installation crew came to install them. Don't know why I did, but I asked what they we going to charge. It was double the estimate! They were not allowed to start the job and I wound up doing the entire installation myself. Having to wait on new cabinets, to replace wrong ones ordered, really extended the time. I began to think I would never finish. Good luck! and be very cautious working with all of that splintered wood, sheet metal and nails! Rb