I have a KA double convection wall oven KEBS208. I was trying to hold off on self-cleaning it because of the problems I read about but I finally broke down and cleaned it last night. It looks so nice again with that pretty blue color (although the racks remain spattered)and I just used the oven this afternoon on 2 different settings and different temps. It worked fine - what a relief. Actually my friend with the same oven cleaned hers first with no problem so that's the reason I decided to clean mine. I think you should feel safe getting the KA - no need to worry about the self cleaning problem, although if you get it make sure to clean it within the warranty period! I love my KA oven, we use it often for pizzas at 500 degrees and use it at regular temps also. I pretty much only use the convection oven feature (used regular bake this afternoon for cheesecake, not convection) and broil. I'm not picky when it comes to an oven but I really like this one. Good luck!

Just thought I'd comment on my Electrolux double oven. Bought it in February of this year and it is a good looking oven. However, after 8 months of rare use, it isn't heating up all the way (neither oven). Luckily, I'm still under warranty. It turns out that Electrolux asks that the ovens be removed from the wall in order to have their repairman repair it. The removal, of course, is not covered by the warranty. I'm so upset; never had this problem with Kitchenaid repairs. Don't understand why I have to pay to remove the oven from the wall in order to have it repaired, WHILE STILL UNDER WARRANTY. For this reason alone, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ELECTROLUX double ovens.

@stumpydarby I just had to buy a refrigerator as ours went out on Christmas day. I was going to get a Bosch as I love my Bosch dishwasher. I get an employee discount with Bosch, Samsung, Whirlpool & GE. I went to Lowes and looked at the Bosch and then came across the Samsung 4 door flex refrigerator. We have had a Samsung fridge b4 w/ no issues and we've had a samsung washer and dryer with nothing but issues. Two sets in 10 years. I really do think it's the luck of the draw on appliances nowdays due to all the features. I went with the Samsung fridge but paid full price bc they had one in stock and got it in 3 days. I am now looking for a microwave/convection combo or the set like you purchased. Microwave/oven combo. I am glad to hear that you have enjoyed your choice and have had no problems. Hope I have the same luck. :-)

First off I would be very careful buying anything with blue enamel. KA and others have had issues with it chipping. I don’t think all KA has blue enamel though. “i’ve heard great things about the Dacor, that it bakes incredibly well and evenly” Did you hear this from someone that actually has one? I had one several years ago and it was awful. It also worked in a really odd way. I looked at the user manual to see if that might still be the case and there are a couple of things that would give pause. First you can’t put any food in for the preheat. From the manual. https://www.dacor.com/uploads/Dacor/28/28c87a3d-647c-4b59-8d02-2975ce154f3c.pdf If you turn it up by 50°F, you have to take the food out because the intense preheat comes back on. When they talk about a delayed start, they talk about not using the preheat. My oven I had worked a lot like that. It had a hard time maintaining temperature. Mine had a different temperature difference (about 150°F) before it triggered the preheat which was much worse. Now it is 50°F. The problem with mine was if you open the door and the temp drops 35°F or even 100°F, it had no way to bring the temperature back up in a timely manner. They market this type of oven as keeping a very narrow temperature because you get the strong preheat and then a quicker on and off of the element which in theory would keep the temperature in a narrow range but doesn’t account for closing or opening the door or a load of cold food. Note the comment of not using the preheat for delayed start but they don’t tell you how long it takes to heat the oven not using the preheat. Some ovens have an optional fast preheat. When I got some oven thermometers because things weren’t cooking right, I could not believe what was happening. They also tell you not to use an oven thermometer in the manual because the door opening and closing will throw the temperature off. I have read a few other manuals that say that too and it makes me wonder what is going on in there. That was my experience back then, but I am fearful that this oven still works that way because a poster here recently bought a Dacor Heritage oven and returned it because it couldn’t maintain a temperature. I actually was able to return mine too but only after they attempted to repair for 9 mos. I had a DF range and wall oven. I have an Electrolux oven now and it works the way I expected. If you open the door, it triggers the element to come on and quickly heats the oven back up @ the rate of about 50°F in about 60 seconds. You can put a casserole in during preheat if you want to and it won’t burn, yet it can go to 350°F in about 7 minutes. I love it but I can’t recommend it because the blue enamel has chipped in mine and others, although no reports lately. It can also have issues with the computer boards. I still might get another one when this goes out. Some people might be able to make Dacor’s way of heating the oven work but I bake cookies, appetizers and open the door too much for it to work for me. They also tell you to keep the door closed as much as possible in the manual. Reading the manual for any oven is important these days. New ovens are not like the old. Dacor is not the only oven to work that way.