30" Capital Culinarian Manual MCOR304?
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Moisture forming on inside oven door of Capital Culinarian
Comments (4)It might be that your kitchen is colder causing the condensation. Also check to make sure nothing is blocking your ventilation. It might be normal initially while preheating but should clear up as the oven heats....See MoreNew Capital Culinarian range models
Comments (3)I ended up getting the MCOR304LP (propane) from Eurostoves and it was delivered ~1.5 weeks ago. We're still getting to know it but so far it's great. The burners are incredible! They worked like a charm with essentially no adjustments needed after installation. The three 25K burners are super strong on hi, yet they turn down to an incredibly small flame on low. It's quite the range of temperature. We only used the oven a few times thus far, but it cooked those items well (trays of bacon, a batch of muffins). The thermostat seems to be set for using convection, and when we don't want to use convection we need to turn the setting to ~25 degrees higher than the temp we want. For example, if a recipe calls for 350 degrees no convection, we generally need to set it to 375. When first turning on the oven, the heatup seems to turn off well before the oven reaches the temp setting. We found that turning on convection during heatup helps the oven get to the temp setting more quickly. The fit and finish is great. No scratches and everything is put together well. We haven't used the broiler or the wok ring yet but look forward to using them. My best moment thus far is when the CC brought ~6 quarts of water to boil (for cooking pasta) in like 5-7 minutes. I was surprised and elated! We are way, way happier with this CC than a similar-model American Range that did not work out for us at all. How do you like your 48-incher? Anyone else?...See More60" range - Wolf vs Capital Culinarian
Comments (76)Hvtech42 There are times that you want to raise the temperature of the oven and it is not possible to rely on the heat stored in the oven walls. - delay start- you are starting the oven with the walls at 72F and it takes 30-50 minutes to get to temp. -The temperature of the oven has been set at 300F for an hour. You decide you need to speed it up so increase the temp to 400F. The walls of the oven are 300F or so so cannot contribute to heating. You can figure out how long this will take to get there. Again this may not matter for some but I think it would for others. You just can't be all things to all people. And yes there are situations where I would be opening my oven frequently or cooking with it propped open a little and would exhaust the heat even in the walls. ________ plllog, the 20-40 minutes is in addition to the normal preheat so the preheat using those numbers is at least 30-50 minutes. ________ "Have you had any experience actually using a Capital oven or are you just basing your comments on your interpretation of the disclosures in the manual? I completely understand your concerns but am trying to understand whether they come from actual experience or just based on an interpretation that is then being related to prior experience/performance of an oven produced by a completely different manufacturer (Dacor)?" One does not have to cook with it to understand how it works when it is laid out as well as this. I can read what they write. They are smart to do this. Who wants to have unhappy customers. A physician does not have to take medicine to see how it works and this would not even be the best way to find out about the way it works. They read the "users guide" which is all the prescribing information so they can decide what would best suit the patient. They can narrow down the list of possible medications and then the patient can try one and see how it works for them. I am not even recommending that you buy or don't buy a particular range--just read the manual. Real user reviews are very helpful but they are an entirely different type of information. Example. -USE and CARE GUIDE ( there is a reason it is called this) and other information directly from the manufacturer ---all kinds of facts-range of temperatures, info on cycles, what buttons to push, etc. This a direct quote that was written by capital. " SETTING: No quick recovery. Oven will cycle normally despite large temperature drops due to the door being left open, or the oven set temperature being reset to a much higher temperature. The recovery time can be very long for large differentials between oven temp and set temp." It does not require some mystical interpretation or use of the oven to understand it. It merely requires considering how you will use your oven and how that statement would relate. One person might say, this won't be an issue for me. I'll keep the door closed as recommended and no problem for me. Another person would take that same information and think, I do cookie marathons and have to open the door all the time and with a 25-50 degree drop each time I need very quick recovery, so it won't work for me. The more complex the oven, the more important this type of information is. --USER REVIEW--I made a cake, pizza etc and they came out pretty good. I recommend this oven. --EXPERT USER REVIEW--for a pie might include the recipe used, butter vs shortening vs lard crust , type of apples, type of bakeware and how they utilized any specific baking modes, position in the oven, whether they needed to move the pie at all. What temperature they used and if convection was used. How the apples cooked, how the bottom of the pie cooked, and whether the crust cooked evenly. They might mention any issues they had. They might do this for several things. The best of course would be if you can use the oven yourself. Then you might add in what the sales person has to say which is another type of information. _______ "Trevor Lawson The results are noted below in picture form, I can produce a manual for those who prefer words rather than results." I'm sure you can cook all these things. As I said above, this is not the issue at all. Even with the problems I had with my ovens, I could cook all kinds of things too. Can you bake macarons with the door propped open. Can you crank it to 450F and pop trays of appettizers in and out every 4-5 minutes for an hour or two? These would be my questions. Are you saying the manual and words are irrelevant or in some way not true? It hate to hear that you would discount the information in the manual. I think it is essential in learning about how the oven works. I know there are people who only go by what the sales person says but I like to read as much as I can and try to find info from unbiased sources as well. I think the engineer has been honest in saying that there are some for whom this will not work and I appreciate his honesty....See More30" rangetop Capital Culinarian or Precision or Thermador
Comments (17)Trevor - I'm hoping you can help us determine if Capital has made any important updates to their ranges in the past 4 years. The reason for asking is that we just moved into a new custom house where we had the builder install a 48" Capital Culinarian Self/Clean Range, Model-CGSR484BG for which we paid over $11K. Unfortunately, in a few short days, we managed to break the oven latch and when we called Capital to arrange a fix, we learned our range was built in 2011. This came to us as a shock as we would have expected to get a 2015 range. I've read other threads where you commented that the simmer issues have been resolved in the newer models. Do you know when that fix was put in place? Have there been other major issues that were resolved in the current models? We're trying to get answers from our builder, who has put us in contact with their appliance distributor, but I'd like to get your independent comment if I may, as I'm sure they have an invested interest to convince us our range is identical to later models. The Capital representative also downplayed the years differential. Any feedback you can give us is much appreciated....See More- 10 years ago
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