Hand held shower head--what brands? What pieces?
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Please don't flame me! Hand held shower question
Comments (6)You've gotten some good info. I'm not sure if you want the hand held in place of the fixed wall shower head, or in addition to it. So I'll try to describe both. Part One, you just want the handheld on a sliding bar: If you just want the hand held and don't want the shower head that came with the D500058, then you need the Danze D469058 wall outlet. You'll use a short brass nipple to attach the wall outlet to the copper fitting inside the wall. The same type of copper fitting that a typical shower arm would get threaded on to. The nipples are only $1-$2 at any box store. You can buy several of differing lengths (1-1/2" to 2" generally), use the one that fits, and return the others. The length needed depends on how deep the drop-ear fitting is buried in the wall plus how thick your tile backer board and tile are. Brass nipple: 1/2" Drop-ear fitting: Your copper tubing get soldered into the "smooth" opening, the shower arm of the shower head or your brass nipple for the wall outlet get threaded into the threaded end. Use teflon tape of teflon pipe dope on all threaded joints. When you plumb it, have one port from your supply valve go to the tub spout, the other port that would normally feed the shower head will instead be plumbed to the Danze wall outlet. Screw one end of the handheld hose to the wall outlet. Attach the other end of the hose to the handheld. Mount the wall bar on the wall. Attach the handheld to the wall bar. Part two, you want the handheld in addition to the fixed shower head on the wall: You'll still need the Danze D469058 wall outlet. You'll also need a diverter valve. I took a quick look at Danze's offering and only see a 4-port diverter valve. All you actually need is a 3-port valve, but a 4-port can still work and allows you to stay in the Danze family. The Danze 4-port is actually designed to have one if its ports capped if you don't need all three outlet ports, the cap is even supplied with the valve, so they make it easy. If you want to go with a 3-port diverter, pick anything you like. I'll stick with Danze for the description: You'll need the Danze D130000BT diverter valve and the Danze D560858T Parma trim kit to go with it. The installation instructions that come with the diverter valve are pretty self explanatory. However... Your hot and cold water supplies will feed the valve that came with the 500058 kit. That valve has two outlet port. One will go to the tub spout, the other now goes to the inlet of the diverter valve. You'll use the supplied cap to cap one of the three outlet ports on the diverter. One of the uncapped ports will go to the fixed shower head. The other port will go to the Danze wall outlet which in turn will feed the handheld. The Danze 4-port diverter affords you the opportunity to feed just the handheld, just the fixed shower head, or both simultaneously....See Morehand held showers, someone please help!
Comments (12)I would steer clear of both Delta and Moen if you want to "ensure that I get a firm spray that will easily rinse soap/shampoo from the body and hair." For that you will have to dig out the flow restrictor from the handheld and when we did this with my Moen, it cracked the handheld because the integrity of the handheld was so poor that it couldn't withstand the extra volume. And now after about 15 years, the replacement handheld is not keeping its fixed position on the slide bar. I cannot wait to scrap it when we redo the master bath. I'm a huge Grohe fan because as I've posted countless times, the flow restrictors are a piece of cake to remove. I have the Relaxa handheld system in my main bath and they are amazing. They are 15 years old and look as good as day one. I have the metal hose in there and no issues. The problem is that you want a mount like we had when he had Water Pik Shower Massage (adding handheld to existing plumbing). I'm not sure it will be easy to find that type of setup with higher end brands. I would take a look at the WP Shower Massage. THey've come a long way since we installed on in the 80s with different finishes and styles. I cannot speak to their water flow however, but I suspect you might have the same issue with low water flow. I would contact them and ask if it is possible to remove the restrictor....See MoreWhat parts do I need for a hand held shower?
Comments (4)When I wrote "For the valve; valve body and compatible valve trim." I have "valve" followed by a semicolon, I meant for what followed the semicolon to be a list of "valve parts". So for a complete valve assembly, you want the rough brass valve body itself, which gets buried in the wall, and then the pretty chrome valve trim that you see and touch inside the shower to cover the valve body. In your photo you show the brass valve. You're right, that is the "valve body". You then want the pretty chrome (or other finish) trim to cover that valve body. With the valve body and the valve trim, you'll have a complete valve assembly. As you wrote, a lot of websites will have you pick out the valve trim that you like then refer you to the valve body that goes wit that trim kit. Sorry for the confusion!...See MoreAnyone have any suggestions for a great shower head ? Not a hand held
Comments (7)My designer was here today helping me with some staging and I asked about my Speakman shower heads. She said that Speakman manufactured shower heads for some brands but they weren't advertised as such but just sold as part of the brand. For example, my shower fixtures are by Phylrich which uses the Speakman shower head under its brand. Evidently Speakman has particular design/construction elements which are recognizable that a professional recognizes a "Speakman" shower head even when it is not branded specifically but is being sold as part of the plumbing "package" by other brands....See Moreenduring
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