When we shopped for ovens, Monogram and FP were almost neck and neck...With the 2006+ model Monograms' ball-bearing, full-extension, leave-in-while-you-self-clean racks, and lower price bringing it up close to the FP, with their well-known wonderful customer service and a few more cooking modes. Some of these ovens can have so many cooking modes I would never know what to do with them all, but I really thought the FP ones would suit my needs, rather than be 'extra,' so that's the way we went....That, and, like you, we found our FP double ovens for a great price.

Recently there's been a report on this forum of problems with a yr old Monogram oven, and Monogram's response doesn't sound that impressive.

Bosch ovens were never on my list. First of all they have the 'high hat' fan in back which protrudes on the interior of the oven (as do the older Monogram models, since I think they were made by Bosch), and getting big pans in was a big consideration for us. I also read too many reports about them being loud and putting out a lot of heat.

So, of your 3 choices, and with that price, I'd sure go Fisher Paykel.

The Bosch "hat" is nowhere near as deep as the Monograms used to be. In my Bosch oven, the projection is except when it is cooling down, the air it ejects is cool - albeit it does generate a stiff breeze. In cooldown mode, obviously the ejected air is going to have to be warm.

I was not especially interested in the F&P or the Monogram and the F&P was the first that I eliminated from my short list and I only looked at the Monograms to see how alike it was to the Bosch. So I can't give an intelligent comparison between the F&P and MOnogram BUT I can compare each to the Bosch since I checked for 'em specifically.

All that said, if you can get a brand new F&P for $900, I wouldn't even bother to look any more - get it!

If you read the first posting by the person who reported recent problems with her Monogram ovens (her first posting trashed Eurostoves for various appliance difficulties), not everyone ended up on her side about it. She definitely has had appliance issues with multiple mfgs, no question about that, but she comes off as a very impatient, demanding, customer. Admittedly she spent many thousands of $$$ on her kitchen appliances, so it's understandable she was upset.

I'd be more concerned that she needed service on both Monogram ovens, not about the response of Monogram per se. F&P is a great company, but don't kid yourself that they get repairs done any faster than anyone else - they're just more pleasant about it. It took me over six weeks and 4 visits to get a single part replaced on my F&P dryer.

Service is the weak point in almost all companies. F&P and Monogram, along with a few others, at least pay some attention to this issue. Other companies, such as LG, all the Siemens companies, Viking, are infamous for being unhelpful even to dealers. It's a big reason why one needs to be careful about who to buy from, not just what brand and how much.

You want to look at the overall number of responses on a brand, and weigh good vs bad experiences on a percentage basis. Any company is going to make some lemons, that's a given with mfg. It's how the dealer and mfg treat you afterwards that can make you either a satisfied or dissatisfied customer.

The odds are higher you'll be satisfied with certain companies, but like Lincoln said, you can't please all the people all the time. If there was a company that could - we'd ALL be buying from them, LOL!

Thanks, Mindstorm, for weighing in with the facts. I could only relate my findings/impressions from when I looked and researched. I'm sorry I gave any opinion on Bosch without qualifying better that I didn't know much of what I was talking about! The problem with all of this appliance shopping is that you can really only know everything if you have a chance to live with each brand and use them for about a year to compare...And that's just not possible. Otherwise, we have hearsay, opinion, and whatever interesting 'stuff' the various appliance salesman decide to impart! That's why this forum is so good, so you can get lots of input from many directions.

Does it really broil so that there isn't a lot of smoke?
I wonder how it dissipates inside the oven without really
coming out a lot when you open the door?
But thanks everyone--I feel good about getting the FP now!

And one more thing, it does require smaller cookie sheets?
Like half size ones?

I forgot to add that I'm doing two single ovens so I could do one FP and another brand but the store has two and if they're great why not?

Do any of you find the interior capacity too small?
And should I buy the extended warranty on it--normally I don't buy those.
thanks

I've had my FP double ovens up and running for ~6 months now and love them. For cookie sheets, I use the shiny half sheet pans that are available from resteraunt supply stores. They're 13" x 18". I do find the interior of the oven shallower than my old non-convection range's oven, but compared to most convection wall ovens, the FP is quite roomy.

I suppose the FP interior is smaller than a full-size range's, but it's very roomy as convection ovens go.

Yes, buy the extended warranty.

I love my Monogram. I've had it since April and the ovens have been flawless! I love the ball-bearing racks as well.

Concerning the Monogram service, I had an issue when we first moved in with the Monogram rangetop and we had GE serviced it. I could not complain about the service. They came out and fixed a very minor issue and was on their merry way.

Hope that helps!

I think at the price of these ovens, the price available to you for the F&P would clinch the deal for me! Wow!

I have a 7 series Bosch, and love it...when it's working properly. Sadly, in the 4 years we've had it, we've had several issues with it. Right now it needs new hinges (won't close properly), for $280. The convection quit, the repairman estimates the part (some electronics) at $300. And the handle has a broken piece on it (third time replaced, price unknown as it was replaced in warranty before). And labor still needs to be added to this :(

DH refuses to put more $$$ into this oven, so we are in the market for a new one. His analogy for this oven is like a BMW, breaks a lot, expensive to fix, but a dream when working! I'm planning on getting those full extension racks in the next oven, too.

Fisher Paykel...the double oven is wonderful. Need to go down about ten degrees for dark interior baking pans..
just my choice..seemed to be baking a bit too quickley
but I am in the mountains so all things change with altitude.
They seem flawless to me and I was purchasing Wolf and Subzero and thought of going high end but loved the spacious
interior of the ovens..and the blue...we recently have
had a small guage issue after the warranty was up..they
are covering the costs and give superb customer service.

Even though this is an older thread, I thought I'd throw in my 2cents. I have a F&P single (installed last October) and it still is not working properly. The repair guy has been here 4 times to work on it, has replaced a circuit board, and has replaced a fan motor TWICE. When the convection fan first comes on it is very noisy. I think the last time he replaced it, he didn't wait long enough to hear it (takes 3 or 4 minutes from the time the oven is turned on until the fan comes on). I just noticed that the door was not replaced correctly which dimpled the front of my beautiful new oven. Looks like the hinge is pushing against it from within. grrrrr!

Note also that the repair man, who does not work for F&P but is who F&P referred us to for repairs, thinks that things may have been damaged upon installation of the oven. Wires that are part of the oven were shoved down into the oven and he thinks that the service conduit may be pressing into the back of the oven also causing a problem. The noise stops after the fan has been on for a minute or so. I have no idea if the convection fan is working silently at this point or not at all.

So I can kind of sympathize with the poster who trashed Monogram and others. I'm about to blow a gasket. I will say that the repair shop has been upbeat and quick to respond, I haven't been charged a dime for their service. Perhaps part of the problem is that they're not very familiar with F&P ovens.