Unfortunately the bird's head is so obscured in this photo that I think the best we can do is call it an 'accipiter sp'. -O-

I have a neurological disorder that prevents me from retaining information. I knew that wasn't a Finch, and I know what a Waxwing is. I was just so distraught I came here immd and posted. I guess they just saw the trees on the other side. Anyway finally, after about an hour, they were gone. So I'm telling myself they survived. I just hate to see any animal struggle or suffer. Plus I've been waiting on them to come; the new neighbors chopped down all the trees next door, and I'm sure that spooked them. I added a few feeders and they're slowly coming back. But I don't want them returning like that! And they're such beautiful birds. Ok, I'll check out the link, and thanks very much for the replies.

I passed the info on with some sites about control strategies. It sounded to me that she was pulling them out after flowering. She tried mowing while they were small but they came back from the roots early in the year.

Uh, you need to tell the seller that there is a VAST difference between Mathilde and obovata!! Mathilda's leaves are textured and tiny, maybe .5" in diameter, on a pendulous vine: Obovata's leaves are large, 3" or so in diameter, and smooth, rubbery and getting succulent with age. Glad you got something you didn't already have, but I still think the seller needs to know you didn't get what you ordered. In fact, I would invite her or him to join our group or the FB Hoya ID group to question IDs... Denise in Omaha