RE: What's so bad about Japanese privet (aka waxleaf ligustrum)?
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Comments (4)until it fully leafs out.. and you know what parts are dead.. or severely damaged ... or until everythign else is the area leafs out.. and this one doesnt .... unless you have a crystal ball and can summons the spirits.. to let you know in advance .. if you do.. and you can.. i would appreciate you bringing it by.. so we can figure it all out on my plants.. lol .. and dont scratch it anymore.. time will tell ... maybe.. if spring ever actually come this year... look to the buds.. are they viable.. the buds are always the future ... w/o them.. you have to wait and see.. if the plant can rebud.. and that will even take longer ... or .. being a privet.. just cut it to 6 inches.. and forget about it ... out of site.. out of mind.. with no insult to the root mass.. it will be at least half the size by fall .... its all about.. how long you want to look at it .... in the state its in right now ... [yeah.. yeah.. if its in tree form.. dont do that] ken...See MoreWeeds: the worst and the not so bad
Comments (28)I'm glad to read all these reports; they're interesting! Thanks to everyone who's written in. Rosemeadowgardener: I don't recognize any of the weeds you list; are they Australian natives, or exotic: do you know their botanical names? Thank God we don't have one of the worst curses of North America here: no poison ivy, oak, sumac. How interesting to read Marianne's weed list from the other end of the European temperate zone and discover that I have all the nasty weeds she does, and several of the nice ones. Galium aperine is an unpleasant plant, sticky and climbing, but there are a number of other Galium species that grow locally that are rather nice. Sweet woodruff is Galium odoratum. Our native primrose is Primula vulgaris; and we too have anemones, hepaticas, wild geraniums--harebells I think not. Connie speaks of the huge weed population of her property, which is an old farm. We too garden on a former farm and downhill from a current one, and I agree with what her post suggests, that agricultural properties present particular weed problems. Ongoing plowing leaves ground permanently disturbed, given weeds fertile ground to grow; grazing animals can trample ground, and the hay brought in to feed them can bring weed seeds from other areas. The year after the shade garden was flooded with manure from a cattle enclosure above, the weed population there was amazing. And we get great numbers of weeds, some of them highly obnoxious, along the drainage ditches that descend from our neighbors' plowed fields through our own land. Then, if fields and pastures are abandoned, they begin to go to brush, and you get brambles and other colonizing species--Connie's plant list is different from mine, but the process is the same. What the heck is Creeping Charlie? A couple of you have mentioned it. The various posts have covered quite a bit of territory, not only in the literal sense, on the topic of weeds. Paula took up the issue of invasive exotics that push out native species on undomesticated land (as well as the native but obnoxious Poison Oak). This is a problem all over the world, of course. I read in that interesting book 'Ecological Imperialism' about how many plants flourished in Europe along with the development of agriculture and became weeds, then traveled all over the world with European colonizers and established themselves in temperate zones everywhere, often at considerable cost to native species. We too have our exotic invasive species--one standout here in the hills is black locust, Robinia pseudoacacia, originally from North America--but I wonder what the effect has been on our native flora of a few thousand years of tolerably intensive agriculture. Were there species that went extinct because they were useless to humans and occupied land that could be used for farming and other useful activities? Some plant populations exist in part as a result of human activities: we have a rich population of native orchids many of which grow in pasture land and are now threatened because grazing is disappearing and the land is turning to brushland and then to woods. But perhaps three thousand years ago the orchids that grew were those adapted to woodlands? Lavender lass: do you know the species name of your artemisia? We have one ugly native artemisia, A. vulgaris, but a couple of nice ones. Another pleasant weed I remembered is lemon balm, Melissa officinalis--what a fine plant to share a name with. It's too invasive to plant, but grows wild at the edges of beds, is fragrant, and has fresh green leaves that are pretty in spring. I feel better every time I see it. I like mulleins too. We have a woolly species similar to what erasmus describes which makes a fine ornamental; the problem is that it seems to need a somewhat lighter soil than is present in most of our garden; otherwise it's not fussy. Melissa...See MoreWhat's so bad about Japanese privet (aka waxleaf ligustrum)?
Comments (33)Sorry for the necro-post, but I came across this thread as I was Googling for something else. I just wanted to chime in with my observations... I work with a tree guy and these Ligustrums are one of our top three removal trees. Hackberry and red cedar are the others. The main reason for removal is because they get way, way too large for the area in which they are planted. Other major reasons are a desire to 'go native' and the mess that they leave with the berries. The boss can't stand these things, and he's one who will go to great lengths to save an otherwise-healthy tree... even a hackberry. People call hacks 'trash trees' and while they do have some bad habits, are weak, and are not very long-lived trees compared to other species-- they do provide good homes for wild birds, butterflies (hackberry emperors and tawny emperors especially) and other critters. Even for all of the negatives that we commonly associate with hacks, he would rather save a hackberry over a ligustrum....See MoreDecision time keep or ditch Wisteria aka Japanese Beetle feed
Comments (10)Thank You both! I didn't realize that the direction the vine twists is an indication of the cultivar, mine is definitely clockwise. I think what I'll do is give it a massive trim, especially that top portion which makes it impossible to get to the JB's and serves no real purpose but to give the sweet mourning dove that has built a nest all tucked-in there (its the cutest thing). Also the whole "support" is rickety and will absolutely have to be re-built properly - it was swaying when I painted it last Spring, yikes. I will look more closely at climbing Hydrangeas but am worried that's also on the JB's yum-yum list. Though I have some bushes they haven't bothered too much, except Limelight. Actinidia is also a JB favorite :-( Clematis is my front-runner at the moment. I am thinking of planting lots of Castor Bean plants around our pool which currently has a row of 6-7 physocarpus diablo. They are supposed to be a good organic toxic weapon against JB's. We have no pets or kids so toxicity from the Castor is not a concern. Also lots of Rue. I really don't want to get rid of these lovely plants, its so unfair! I'll try everything else before I do. I'm hoping to at least reduce the numbers to where I don't have them flying in my face & hair while out in the garden. Plus I have the time to dedicate myself to this and hey, maybe I'll find a control formula to share with all!...See Moreniget2002
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