I still don't think it's elder. It was bugging me so i looked it up. Look at the link below and notice how much longer the elder leaves are in proportion, and more important, notice that they are attached right to the central stem they grow off of to form the compound leaf. Basil's plant has smaller stems coming off the central stem which then form a leaf. Small but important distinction. The elder leaves are serrated as well, but it's pretty hard to tell if basil's are or not. What color are the berries? I agree that it's very hard to tell for sure without a better pic. I don't know if any of the viburnums have compound leaves or not, but that's an excellent point. Do you know adele? There's such a lot of them. Fyi, my queen anne's lace get to 4 or sometimes close to 5'. Not that that's what anyone was showing except that one link where they were describing the flower. Here is a link that might be useful: elder leaves from google images

Condoleezza is my first choice and Elizabeth Dole second.((tedp2)) My Reply: I was thinking about your comment of this wonderful dream team of (((Condoleezza Rice & Elisabeth Dole)) as our next presidents and Vice President, Amen, as I was showing Elizabeth Dole wear her trade mark favrite color ((Pineapple)) on the Senate floor Friday. Both Rice & Dole is tough on National Security, and we must remember Former Senator Bob Doug forsight on terrorism concerns before 911. What a Powerful team they would make, Amen!! The Presidential Team I have put together, was (John Mc Cain & Mark Warner) or (John Warner & John Mc Cain). Or John Warner & George Allen, but who will fell their shoes in Congress is the main Question. Like Senator Bird, felt his calling was to stay in Congress, Congress needs he strong leadership of these Great man. I feel the same way about Senator Dianne Feinstein, I love her concerns about the enviorment, and the way she Ask questions to seek information. she is very serious Senator, who treat Minority Republicans with respect, with-out yelling at them, but Ask very tough questions. As well as, Sanator Kennedy should stay in Congress, because when he is not up-set, he serves the American people very well, in congress, live last week on. I have Great trust in Senator Dr. William Frist, and agreed will him last week, Amen!! Sometimes many Bill need More work before they becomes Law. mrsjustice

Susieque, I am surprised too that Jasdip;s neighbour doesn't even have a clinic doctor. but they may live in an area where there are not many clinics. The Province of Ontario's health care mandate is that everyone should have access to a doctor. I am not absolutely positive but I think they wanted Doctors to devote some of their time to clinic hours so that everyone has access to a doctor that does not have a family physician. In the community where I live I can count more than 3 walk in clinics less than a mile from my house, some are even open nights and weekends. Kathleen, I am sorry you experienced bad health care.Do you live in an under service area. Where I live there seems to be a medical clinic every frew miles and we are a city with a population of just over 200,000. I guess my family and friends have been fortunate. I haven't heard of any horror stories personally but I don't doubt there are problems. I guess until you experience it you don't know how bad it could be. My family members and some friends have had some severe medical issues and have had nothing but wonderful care. My sister was telling me today her one prescription is $700 a month and the senior plan does not cover it but the cancer clinic pays for it. For all the prescriptions she has she only has to pay $4 co pay per prescription. I was at my Doctors just last week for a bug and infection I picked up. Last week I went to the clinic where my Doctor works and was seen immediately. I didn't have to wait 5 minutes. They took my health card number and I was in. My Doctor examined me and arranged for an ultrasound for the next day. After the ultrasound it wasn't even a week before I got the results and was called by my Doctor's office to come in that day but I couldn't so I went in the next day. Thursday I went to my Doctor's office in the same building as the clinic since he was in his office that day seeing his regular patients. Again, I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes to get in and then got the results and was given a batch of tests to have done. One of the tests is for a mammogram and that is next Thursday - I have never had to wait more than a week to get a mammogram although I know some areas where the wait is longer. Some women are referred here from other cities because of the shorter wait time. My blood tests and x-rays I can just drop in down the street at another clinic to have them done at the same time although I am not looking forward to the blood tests. No appointment is necessary. The other test I have to have done is a mail in test haha not looking forward to doing that one either. One of my family members does not have a family doctor and is a long term patient with one of the doctors at a clinic. I don't have a drug plan so I pay for my prescriptions. If I do need something that is expensive or long term like when I had to take prescription meds for my acid reflux my Doctor;s nurse arranged for the drug rep to drop off boxes of medication for me and I would pick it up once a month. I don't have need for them anymore. I know someone who has degenerative disks in her back making it hard for her to walk. One day it got so bad she went to see the Doctor and she got into see a neurologist right away which was surprising. She was sent for an MRI. After the MRI when she was ready to leave they told her she couldn't go they were sending her for surgery right away. She was shocked at this and wanted time to think so had to sign a waiver to go home. They told her if it gets any worse to come back to the ER and they would get her right into surgery which is what eventually happened. No waiting. Just told to come in. Now I must admit that is a bit unusual but some people are lucky haha As far as foreign doctors from other countries. They just can't come in and start practicing. They may be wonderful knowledgeable Doctors in their own countries but when they come to Canada they have to have the same qualifications that Canadian doctors do. They have to pass Board examines and get their Canadian medical license Sure there are a lot of problems with our medical system but isn't there in other places as well. I have heard of long wait times in American ERs just like here. I just watched ABC's Nightline the other night where a charitable organization set up an outdoor medical clinic in Virginia where some people waited in line for days to see a doctor, dentist, many types of health care because they don't have access to medical care of doctors or can't afford to go. I think we are fortunate none of us in Canada has to do that. If you have the money the US will welcome you with open arms. Many people here take the 15 minute trip across the border for surgery because they have the means to do so. Sometimes OHIP will even pay for needed medical care across the border. Often people in Windsor are sent across the border to trauma centres. I guess we are lucky we can have the best of both worlds. In every walk of life you meet rude people, people do lose patience especially those that have to deal with the public and are over worked. No it is not good to be on the receiving end when you are ill and there is no excuse for it but it happens. If I was so bothered by it I would find somewhere to complain, there are ways to do that. Hospitals have boards, then there is Health Ontario. If the doctor was incompetent I would go elsewhere. I like to know that I can live in a Province that if I or any of my family or friends get sick, we can get health care without worrying how much it is going to cost us or if we can afford it or if we have the right insurance to cover us.. Sure the time will come as it already has that some services are not free anymore like physiotherapy or mole removal but that is a small price to pay for what we do have. Sherry I hope your friend gets the help she needs from a good doctor. Sometimes if you live in a small community it is good to get a referral to a bigger medical centre like London.

"... seems like such a large area to fill with ground coverings ..." Saying so causes slight laugh on my part. Consider that a grass lawn acts as a type of "groundcover" ... a continuous expanse of low (though we do it by mowing) plants that cover the ground ... like upholstery ... or like how skin covers a body. The typical groundcover acts the same way but like an elevated platform relative to mowed lawn ... adding interest and in some cases, modest concealment. It works well as a linking element that joins otherwise separate objects together. It's size needs to be what accomplishes that. The huirdle about groundcover is learning to keep the weeds out, where Preen, a pre-emergent herbicide, is immensely helpful until the groundcover "knits" together. Warning ... watch out for 'Carissa' holly. The name makes it sound cute and demure but, like other cornuta holly varieties, it's a fairly vigorous grower and produces tough-to-cut wood on new growth. In a few years, it's "trunk" will be a tree stump and hard to remove. I removed an older hedge of these and could not pull out a single one with a truck! I would definitely consider this too large to go under a low window. Dwarf Yaupon holly would be a much easier choice to trim and maintain. Keep in mind that you cannot think that plants will be like the tiny things you see in pots in the nursery. Everything is going to get much larger. As far as ornamental grasses go, I don't see a place in the front for them. Maybe one or some could fit into the planting along the sides of your house.