Thomis: your shots inspried me to go out CAR huntin this afternoon. Found some that hadn't gotten their wetting yet and they looked like they had short dark spines. Then, I put one in water and, within a couple of hours, the spines started getting longer and thicker and turned rust colored. I'll leave my experiment running for a few more days to see what happens. One source I read said that leaves are most susceptible when they are 3-7 days old making sprays most important from pink until 3 wks post bloom. I guess the danger period could extend until the galls are done sporulating around you or until all the leaves are mature enough to fight off an infection(?), whichever comes first. Rust does require a wet plant surface to take hold I read somewhere else. Two years ago I discovered that Jonafree was not very tolerant of CAR and that Freedom was. The poor Jonafree took a whoopin! Last year I didn't have my feces congregated early enough to spray ahead of infection and got symptoms starting to show up. Sprayed w/Immunox + Captan and then again 7 days later. No more CAR! I think my spraying was done for the seeason by then. Freedom does show faint signs in the leaves but I think those go away, can't remember. Go get'um Michael

Do you have something for it to climb up? They love to climb and can really take off then. Placing the pot next to a trellis or fence of some kind would make it very happy:) just give it alittle help by gently wrapping the ends to it to get it started.

I just soaked my seeds this afternoon, they're already soft and tomorrow I am going to plant them. I'll use our WS method and they'll be ready to plant before I know it. I'm growing President Tyler this year, the seeds are from my own plants which grew last year from seeds I got in a trade.

Carol, give it a shot, what do you have to lose? As far as I know, Morning Glories are best direct sown. You might want to soak them over night or nick the seed before you sow them. They have a tough outer coating and soaking or nicking them helps them germinate better, or so I've been told. ;) Have fun! Diann IA Z5a