Mystery tomato plants
Jaybob
12 years ago
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Comments (17)"So you are saying that Early Girl is a hybrid, (yes I just checked, its called Early Girl VFF Hybrid #2783) and one of the parents of the type I bought is a potato leaf?" ---------------------------------------------------------- Yes, one of the parent lines of Early Girl and Early Girl Improved is potato leafed (PL). Like you, I have found PL seedlings in plants I have started from Early Girl Improved seeds bought from commercial vendors in sealed packages bought from racks like Burpee, Northrup King, Ferry Morse, etc. All that means to me is that someone in some Southeast Asian seed production plantation mistakenly picked one of the tomatoes from a PL parent plant that had not been cross pollinated by the RL parent line and those pure line PL seeds got mixed into the whole batch of properly harvested F1 seeds. I've also found PL seedlings in Early Girl plants started at commercial greenhouses and set out for sale. This too is rare, but when I examined all the plants at this one particular nursery, no a single other variety the man has started was a PL variety. I confirmed this with the owner. I have also grown PSR-37, which Peters Seed Research absolutely described as an open pollinated derivation of the old Early Girl (prior to Early Girl Improved) and said it should be stable for PL and it was. All of these tomatoes that were PL were similar or nearly identical in all respects to one another by comparison. The fruit all was small to medium, red, pointed at the blossom end and zingy/sweet with no depth of flavor. I'd compare them to Bloody Butcher, Matina, Tamina, and those kind of Western European, PL, early season, open pollinated varieties that are popular here in the states for early tomatoes. Here is a picture of one of the faux Early Girl (PLs) side-by-side with Early Girl Improved. The tomato on the right is Early Girl Improved with its leaf shape and the tomato on the right is one of what I consider to be from stray seed of one of the Early Girl parents. Again, this one on the left is typical of what I got on two occasions as mistaken EG, what I got when I grew out Early Girl Improved F2 seeds (25% of the total), and what PSR-37 looks like. Oh there may be some minor differences in the fruit as some are more pointy than others; but that could be climatic conditions too. And again, I consider these rare stray PL plants from seed packs or in nursery flats to be the result of sloppy seed harvesting at the breeding fields. Nothing to get excited about unless you, unlike me, find something outrageously delicious....See Moremystery tomatoes
Comments (4)I'm in New Orleans and here we grow Creole tomatoes, some of the best in the world- huge, squat and lobed with a large crown and very juicy, very ugly. Gardens here use types like Celebrity, Better Boy, etc. when planting, or whatever seems to hold up to the intense heat. There is really no required pedigree or cultivar type. It's actually the climate and soil that make the tomatoes better here, believe it or not. Long story short, that's what I meant about run-of-the-mill. I have grown cherry tomatoes with great success, but grape tomatoes can't seem to stand up to our mid-90s Spring weather here. Like I said, this was just some random plant that showed up in my garden, I assume as a result of a bird hanging around, and I was curious. Thanks so much for all the information...See MoreCan you tell what type of tomato my 'mystery plant' is
Comments (13)This is a voulnteer. I had plums, cherries and beef steaks last year..but I can't recall the names. I got them from a small nursery that did sell heirloom, along with hybrids. I remember trying to select heirloom types versus hybrid. And I rememer that the beefsteak grew pretty large, and wasn't super red when ripe. And it wasnt a perfect "round shape".. **** OK, so it's a volunteer and so any named variety we might come up with is out. Do you remember if any of the varieties you grew last year had potato leaf foliage as opposed to the more frequently seen regular foliage? Other than knowing if any of your varieties last year were PL, and without you being able to remember the names of the varieties you did grow I do think it's going to be impossible to ID what you have, not just to variety but as you asked originally, as to whether it's going to be a cherry or not. And a couple of us have said why we don't think it's a cherry and why, but I do hope you'll come back and tell us how it's developing and what it turned out to be b'c unless you grew a PL variety last year this plant is probably the result of a cross pollination and what you're growing is an F1 hybrid plant. And even that is dicey, meaning the X pollination, b'c in order to get a PL plant from random X pollination both parents would have to be heterozygous for the PL gene, ......, etc,but I'm going too far now, in trying to explain that which is really not necessary to try and explain. LOL What's important is how do you like what you eventually get from this plant. Carolyn...See MoreTomato seedling from?
Comments (4)I've got a mystery tomato plant too but it's because the label got wet and unreadable. It will be interesting to see what it is.....actually, right about now it would be interesting to see any tomato ripe and ready to eat from my garden, lol We've got lots of huge green ones but not even a blush on any yet. I'm not sure I'd want a volunteer from a hybrid tomato because you can't be sure of the quality of the fruit and garden space is a premium in my garden. Now if you grow only heirloom tomatoes I'd keep and make room for it somehow. Can always use another tomato plant even if you give them away to friends and family. :)...See Morecarolyn137
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