Hi-- I found this thread after searching for "carnivorous plants" and "women" on Google, and I'm fascinated...I'm writing an article on Charles Darwin's insectivorous plant studies--specifically, I'm looking at 19th century women naturalists who studied CPs and wrote to Darwin about what they saw. He incorporated some of these observations into his "big book" on the subject, "Insectivorous Plants," published in 1875. Just so you know, there were many women who were interested in CPs--and many who wrote popular articles, based on their own studies into the lives of the plants, for magazines--in the 19th century. They also asked the same questions about "sexism" in plant studies and wondered about the "choices" they had available to them. Anyway, thanks for the interesting posts. It's given me great food for thought. By the way, I haven't started growing CPs myself yet, but I'm planning on building a terrarium soon. I can't wait!

thanks for posting, I tried right clicking but dont see show photo, luvtocraft the post are new, , one is ( my snowman ornaments ) posted by cheri, another was posted yesterday, I can sse ( my icicles box ) posted by jacquelyn today, does a program caled firewall have something to do with not seeing photo, this seemed to start about a month ago when roadrunner took over in my area and we had to download there stuff, hubby handles all the involed stuff I just use the computer thanks oddie

spencer I wish you lived in my area - your rates are more than reasonable. I just had a new home built in Northern VA - the electricians were out of Winchester VA which is a lower cost of living area - probably comparbale to your area. They have great rates and here is what they charge for some things 35 dollars per outlet (includes wiring, outlet, and plate) 50 dollars per switch 100 dollars per recessed can (includes wiring, can & trim) 400 dollars per 100 Amp sub panel (this is only for the cable extension from the main and the sub panel box - you pay for each circuit & breaker added) 80 dollars per chandelier box (bolted into studs) I read your list and for similar items you listed, your prices seemed quite good, especially since this is not new construction. I too had sticker shock when I got the estimate from my electricians to do a lot of the extra wiring I wanted in my house (stuff beyond minimum code). I knew they had good prices, I just could not afford the extra cost (like cans - I have 87 in my house). So I did the work myself and paid them to inspect my work. It sounds like this was a job worth passing up.

I remember reading that...but it's still just as funny.... I am completely surprised that I didn't find a post from me on there...My DH has done a few things during our 42 years that I tell on him every now and then. patti