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new house, new roses - ID's please?

18 years ago

I'm almost embarrased to post these with all of the beautiful pictures I've seen here... but I was wondering if I could get some identifications?

I purchased a house this summer and didn't even discover until recently that the whole side yard is coverd in roses! I have no idea how to take care of them so any "fall cleanup" advice would be great... I will definately do some reading this winter too to take care of them come spring... anyway, on to the idents... here are my pics:

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thanks for any help!

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kvturtle
18 years ago
There are sooo many varities out there that look the same, especially with the red ones!, but my huimble guess would be Red-"Tender Night" Cream/red-"Diamond Jubilee"
Now this was a hard one----
cream/pinkorpeach-possibly 1."Shropshirelass", 2."Peer Gynt" or 3."Crepuscule" or 4."Many happy Returns". See-many possibilities. And the only one I have is Diamond Jubilee. the others I looked up in "Botanica's Roses" 1,000 pages/ 2,000 roses listed w/pictures. hope it helped. Kathie
oksanakazan
18 years ago
I have rose, which showing on a second picture. It's mini- rose "Debut"
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My first guess was Fragrant Cloud, too. But I've never seen leaves that small or that dense on mine. Tropicana looks like a good guess! I don't have that one, but looked at photos of it on helpmefind and there are a couple posted of the bush by "smoner4" on pgs. 9 and 11 on the photos tab that look similar to your plant. Is Tropicana fragrant? FC is VERY fragrant! Noting the fragrance might help narrow down your choices, too. Good luck!
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diggerdave
18 years ago
Dark, reddish foliage at the bottom om the red pic makes me lean to {{gwi:1231384}} (thumbnail, click to see full photo) Europeana (floribunda). Foliage is a dead giveaway on that rascal {{gwi:1231386}} I know I have better pics of the foliage somewhere.... lol.

The second reminds me of a mini also... {{gwi:1206716}} Magic Carrousel was the one I was thinking of {{gwi:1202180}}
bethnorcal9
18 years ago
The last one looks a lot like the old J&P floribunda FIRST KISS. If it grows rather short and sometimes clusters, and has a slight "pear" scent, then I'd say that's what it is.
Sconey
18 years ago
The red one looks an awful lot like my Ole.
But there seems to be lots and lots of reds that look similar.
jimmiegeorge
18 years ago
Given your zone, I'd hazard a guess that the red one is Champlain. The spray formation fits as does the curling, burned petals that Champlain gets when the bloom is just about done.
ehann
18 years ago
The bicolor looks like my Nicole, a floribunda. I'm told it gets huge, what are the growth habits of your bush?
Adgerlady
18 years ago
I think that 2nd rose is Hannah Gordon. Be sure and check out all the photos on helpmefind
Sis

Here is a link that might be useful: hannah gordon
petaloid
18 years ago
I also think the second one looks like my Magic Carrousel, as diggerdave said.
debrazone9socal
18 years ago
The first one looks like Red Simplicity to me, based on the petal shape and color. Check out the link.

Here is a link that might be useful: Red Simplicity on HMF
PattyNCal
18 years ago
I agree, Europeana for the red if it stays around 3 feet and blooms in big clusters, hardy any fragrance. The second is a mini? If so, Magic Carousel for sure. the third, I am not too sure.
dianess987
18 years ago
The third one struck me as First Kiss also. First Kiss has a glow from inside.

I've heard good things about the roses for dummies book, although I've not read it. It might be helpful to have a straightforward reference at hand, with nice clear pictures.
patricianat
18 years ago
I agree on Hannah Gordon vs Nicole. The petals of Hannah are a little different from Nicole.

First Kiss is a good guess on the third one.

Ah, that Europeana could be and could not be, who knows? Too many red.
collinw
18 years ago
The red one could be Blaze. My Europeana is more 'velvety' than this photo seems to be.

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