I Want it All!! [disease resistance, fragrance, shade tolerance
friedabyler
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Comments (24)>I live in zone 5b. I have an east-facing 6x15 fence that is shaded by a 100-foot tree, so that it gets about 3 hours of direct afternoon sun and 3 hours of (very) dappled sun through various trees. It might get a couple hours more of dappled sun once it makes it to the top of the fence. I'd like a climber to cover this fence Cornelia's blooms are not usually a straight pink, but have a lot of yellowish warmth, especially focused in their centers. Buds with a deeper shade of coral/strawberry red. Janet at Rogue Valley says: "I would say it will grow well in Zone 6 for sure, but may, quite possibly, survive in colder climates with just a bit of care." Barbara Wilde's Roses book lists this one for zones 4-10. Antique Rose Emporium says zones 6-9. Help Me Find says zones USDA zone 5b through 10b. Ghislaine De Féligonde's blooms change depending on the weather, but can have some definite apricot or orange shades, though most commonly the yellow colors are seen. Usually they fade quickly to very pale or white, though, so at any one point the bush has a large mix of warm colors. Barbara Wilde's Roses book lists this one for zones 5-10. Help Me Find lists the rose for zone 5. Either of these varieties ought to work for your spot, I'd guess. Plant two along the 15-foot distance and either variety ought to quickly fill it in and top your fence. Both are fragrant, flexible, and low in thorns. Both can work well in a pretty good bit of shade. If you don't also want a shrubby effect standing out from the fence but want more to use all the rose's leggy canes to covering the fence, Cornelia might be the better choice. If what you want to see is more like a full shrub that you could also take its longer canes to use for completely covering the fence behind it, then Ghislaine might be the one to choose. But they are not drastically different in form, according to all the pictures I've seen. (I've had Cornelia, but had to get rid of it with RRD after only one year. It did look as if it would make a wonderful climber that would easily do a good job in covering a fence, as far as everything I could see in the rose's habits.) Ghislaine's pictures lead me to believe that that one would cover every square inch of the fence in a large dose of vigorous growth everywhere. You might get by with just planting one rose in the middle, but I'd use 2 if I were doing it. Using 3, it would fill in in a really big hurry and perhaps ask for some pillars and a trellis too! Best wishes, Mary...See Moredeer resistant/drought tolerant groundcover for part sun/shade
Comments (11)Stachys byzantina 'Helen von Stein' (big ears) is my favorite and it has never bloomed. The smaller ones bloom and then they (to me) are a mess to deadhead and keep neat looking compared to big ears. Here's one of mine with a rose campion pretending to bloom out of it. :-) Thyme is also good. If you like lime/bright, the spirea 'Limemound' is a great little thing when used as a companion with plants of blue foliage/blooms. I have it beside a nepeta. I wish I could send you some of my creeping perennial heliotrope 'Azure Skies' as it blooms not stop from spring until frost. A great groundcover that resembles verbena. Totally deer and rabbit proof. It even floats across my stream and can take full sun or partial shade. A few plants and you can keep taking cuttings to create as much as you want....See MoreCan The Impressionist tolerate shade? Disease resistant?
Comments (14)This is an old thread but I'll remark anyway. I've relocated my impressionist rose twice trying to find a spot suitable to it's needs. It does require at least 6 hours of sun or else it gets blackspot. Its final spot allows to receive 6 hours of morning and early afternoon sun. No blackspot at all this location. It is a heavy feeder. I give it lots of compost and rose food throughout the season. The blooms are beautiful but I haven't noticed any fragrance. It has a stiff upright habit. Not really a climber, more of a tall narrow floribunda. Beautiful rose but seems to be very finicky about its spot....See MoreDisease Resistance vs Fragrance
Comments (14)Some of my HTs that are lovely, very fragrant, and bs resistant: Valencia, Oklahoma, Berolina, Memoire (Ice Cream), Elle, Peter Mayle. I should add, that "bs resistance" does not mean BS free--especially when applied to hybrid teas. However, for hybrid teas, the above ones are fragrant and fairly good on bs resistance. For fragrant and bs resistant shrubs, there are Austin's Lady of Shalott, Munstead Wood, Pretty Jessica, and some people think Jubilee Celebration is although I have some problems with bs on mine (not a disease-magnet, however). A number of Austin's more recent roses are also fragrant and good on bs resistance. Others: Well Being (modern shrub); older roses: Souvenir de la Malmaison and its almost identical twin Mystic Beauty. Some claim the hybrid perpetual Mrs. John Laing is both very fragrant and bs resistant, but mine has some (but not a lot) of bs problems. Several of my hybrid musks are fragrant and reasonably bs resistant. There are also some roses with only moderate fragrance and good bs resistance--ought to do in a pinch. : ) Hope that helps. Kate...See Morefriedabyler
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