Compost tea on lawns
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My utter failure in organic lawn care
Comments (41)I just had to post this after reading this thread. I hope you like it as much as I did. Peace WORK - AS VIEWED FROM HEAVEN (overheard in a conversation between God and St. Francis): GOD : Francis, you know all about gardens and nature; what in the world is going on down there in the U.S. ? What happened to the dandelions, violets, thistles and the stuff I started eons ago? I had a perfect no-maintenance garden plan. Those plants grow in any type of soil, withstand drought, and multiply with abandon. The nectar from the long-lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honeybees, and flocks of songbirds. I expected to see a vast garden of color by now. All I see are patches of green. St. Francis: It's the tribes that settled there, Lord. They are called the Suburbanites. They started calling your flowers "weeds" and went to great lengths to kill them and replace them with grass. GOD : Grass? But it is so boring, it's not colorful. It doesn't attract butterflies, bees or birds, only grubs and sod worms. It's temperamental with temperatures. Do these Suburbanites really want grass growing there? St. Francis: Apparently not, Lord. As soon as it has grown a little, they cut it....sometimes two times a week. GOD : They cut it? Do they bale it like hay? St. Francis: Not exactly, Lord. Most of them rake it up and put it in bags. GOD : They bag it? Why? Is it a cash crop? Do they sell it? St. Francis: No sir, just the opposite. They pay to throw it away. GOD : Now let me get this straight...they fertilize it to make it grow and when it does grow, they cut it off and pay to throw it away? St. Francis: Yes, sir. GOD : These Suburbanites must be relieved in the summer when we cut back on the rain and turn up the heat. That surely slows the growth and saves them a lot of work. St. Francis: You aren't going to believe this Lord, but when the grass stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay more money to water it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid of it. GOD : What nonsense! At least they kept some of the trees. That was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself. The trees grow leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in the summer. In the autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural blanket to keep the moisture in the soil and protect the trees and bushes. Plus, as they rot, the leaves become compost to enhance the soil. It's a natural circle of life. St. Francis: You'd better sit down, Lord. As soon as the leaves fall, the Suburbanites rake them into great piles and pay to have them hauled away. GOD : No way! What do they do to protect the shrubs and tree roots in the winter to keep the soil moist and loose? St Francis: After throwing the leaves away, they go out and buy something called mulch. They haul it home and spread it around in place of the leaves. GOD : And where do they get this mulch? St. Francis: They cut down the trees and grind them up to make mulch. GOD : Enough! I don't want to think about this anymore. Saint Catherine, you're in charge of the arts. What movie have you scheduled for us tonight? St. Catherine: "Dumb and Dumber," Lord. It's a really stupid movie about.... GOD: Never mind--I think I just heard the whole story from Saint Francis! ....See Moredont have home compost for tea, 'Fox Farms Ocean Forest' okay?
Comments (2)If you are REALLY in a pinch I suppose it would work, but it is very expensive potting soil, I wouldn't want to spend my money that way. You might as well buy some fish emulsion or organic liquid fertilizer like earth juice. If you have the option though, I would make tea out of the Planting Mix they make, rather than Ocean Forest. The Planting Mix is just the good (nutrient-rich) stuff....See MoreNeed Some Help Saving My Lawn
Comments (6)That is a beautiful picture of a swale! I needed that for another post a few days ago. What seems to have happened is you lost most of the KBG (Kentucky bluegrass) back at the beginning except for down the middle of the swale. It has managed to come back and is creeping up the sides. Eventually it will completely take over. Here is the deal with KBG, the first year it sleeps, the second year it creeps, the third year it leaps. Next year you will have a gorgeous lawn everywhere that the KBG has extended its reach - and that will be pretty far. If you overseed in the fall, you will start the sleep/creep/leap cycle over again for the new seed, but if you don't, then you must rely on the KBG you have creeping to fill the entire yard. That can easily happen if you water deeply/infrequently and mow relatively high, and fertilize as much as you can afford. SBM (common acronym for soybean meal) is excellent. Use as much as you can afford as often as you can afford it (this IS your only hobby, right??). There are people just a little north of you who use several hundred pounds of SBM per 1,000 square feet per year (this IS their only hobby). The organic matter that really matters in the soil is the microbes. Your basic soil sounds pretty hostile but by watering deeply and fertilizing routinely, the deep roots will provide homes and food for the microbes. Grass is one of those plants that sheds its roots all the time. As old roots get replaced, they have to decompose. That decomposition is what the microbes do. Thus by growing roots you are increasing the organic matter in the soil. If you do aerate, watch for those rocks. When you hit one the aerator will buck up in the air. After you aerate, water very deeply. I would go for 3 hours per zone or until you get runoff, which ever comes first. Have you read the Organic Lawn Care FAQ? It is on the Organic Gardening forum here or elsewhere on lawn forums around the web....See MoreYear two questions
Comments (18)Do you have any sources to back that info up? Baby always has sources. A quick search showed this...which means they're going into the air. Air plus wind equals travel, as handily proven by the algae that manage to populate every time it rains for a week straight. Airborne Bacteria in the Atmosphere I remember reading something in...Nature? Science? One of the two, anyway, some time ago about it as well. I mean I listen to Dr Ingham from Soil Food Web all the time and she never said anything about microbes in the air helping improve the soil.... And she's in the business of... (Yes, it's a leading question which I tend to hate, but I'm trying to get some skeptical thought in here). The simple fact that nature has slogged along happily for four billion years without us testing the soil and composting everything is both a triumph of biology and a testament to the mobility of micro- and macro-organisms. Even I shed a few million bacteria every time I go outside. Most aren't compatible with that environment. Some that I dragged from other places are. Urea, or (NH2)2CO, is handled by...bacteria, post-hydrolysis. Microorganisms also produce it. I produce it. Strangely, Dalmatians do not. Ammonium, urea post hydrolysis, can kill bacteria. I haven't seen any good studies that show it kills enough and provides enough setback time to cause a problem in the amounts we would use (1 lb/K ft or so). Dogs (except Dalmatians) add massive amounts with Every Pee, but the soil bacteria can deal with it if they have a carbon buffer. Use in ridiculous amounts probably would have an impact, but you wouldn't have a lawn left, either. Like I said above, those little suckers divide fast and exponentially in available space and with food. Doing that in fall, when they're inactive anyway, gives all winter for slowed reproduction to restore the population, plus early spring. To bacteria, that's an aeon even if they're inactive 19 days out of 20 and even if it did damage, which remains unproven. Skeptical thought again. Should you believe me? (Another leading question). Certainly not, if you don't wish to. Go, there's a world of resources out there. Research. Learn. Report back, I could always be wrong--and would learn something if I were. But please...try to use neutral sources, or at least ones whose businesses do not depend on people believing they have sick soil without the Special Magic Ingredient....See Morebpgreen
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