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I Hate This Weather

Okiedawn OK Zone 7
11 years ago

I am in the mood to rant about the weather today. Anyone else feeling that way?

First, let's look at the lack of rainfall. I know some of you have had great rainfall this year and I am happy for you. We had great rainfall in Jan-Mar, but Apr-May rainfall has been poor. What really worries me about this is that our normal rainy period in our county is April through June. If we get good rainfall then, at least our plants have that good soil moisture to carry them into summer. Without that good spring rainfall, though, our plants are in trouble.

I don't remember April's rainfall as a percentage of normal, but in May our rainfall has been about 25% of normal. I realize we have over a week to go and one big rainfall could put us right back at normal or average, but my forecast doesn't have a chance of rain at all until next Tuesday, and that's only a 20% of a slight shower or scattered thunderstorm. Those are pretty poor odds. As dry as we are here, a lot of eastern OK has been even drier since they're usually so very much wetter than we are.

Then there's the wind. This month we've been plagued with winds in the 20s-30s in combination with temps in the upper 80s through upper 90s. When you have both of those in combination with very low rainfall, the wind/heat is like a blast furnace that sucks the moisture and greenness right out of the plants. My poor plants look like I go out there with a torch and roast them and torture them.

Finally, the temperatures. They are driving me crazy. Ever since we moved here in 1999, I've noticed that even the NWS point forecast for our area misses our high temp by 3 to 5 degrees routinely. Since last summer, it has been much worse than that. We often have been 5 to 10 degrees higher than the forecast. I assume the forecast models just aren't dealing well with the combination of factors that are giving us these high temps.

As a case in point, our forecast yesterday was for 83. We hit 92 degrees at the Burneyville mesonet station that is west of us a few miles, and 94 degrees on the thermometer on our shaded wrap-around porch. So, if today's forecast is for a high temp of 93, should I be expecting 95? 98? 102? It makes me crazy. I don't know why I even look at the forecast because the temperature part of it will not be right. Often it is not even close. If we ever have a day where our high temp remotely matches the forecast high temp, I'll think my thermometer is broken.

The humidity levels are getting low in the afternoons like we commonly see in mid-summer through late-summer. They've dipped into the 20s a lot lately. That is hard on the plants and increases the likelihood of grassfires igniting. I haven't even been paying that much attention to our KBDI until the lat couple of weeks. I guess that's because for much of Jan-Mar it was near zero. Tim watches it though, and tells me what it is every now and then. Right now it is approaching 400, which would be more typical for us in August, not late May.

Because we had good winter and early spring rain, and because I mulch heavily, the garden has tolerated the dryness fairly well so far. At least when it is this hot and this dry, as long as I am not watering with a sprinkler and getting water on the plant foliage, we see very little bacterial or fungal issues. However, the only way to say it is that the garden is producing better than it is looking. I have watered some, but because there's a very heavy load of fruit on the tomato plants, I've been avoiding watering them as much as I can. The landscape is a whole different story.

I hate, hate, hate this weather. Why couldn't we have had a nice rainy April and May to carry us into the summer weather with some assurance that the plants will be okay with just a moderate amount of water.

I have resolved that I am not, not, not, not, not going to water heavily like I did last summer. When it is extremely hot and extremely dry like it has been this month, you cannot water vegetable plants enough to keep them in high production. Thus, heavy watering is an unsound financial decision.

Okay, that's my weather rant. I'll be headed out to the garden shortly to mulch the still short and stunted mid-season and late-season corn. I like to wait until the corn is a foot tall before I mulch it, but I'm afraid if I don't mulch sooner, it never will make it to one-foot tall. Needless to say, our soil temperatures are off-the-charts. For those of you new to gardening or just new to gardening in Oklahoma, heavy mulching can reduce the soil temperatures about 20 degrees in the hot months. This is very important because, in unmulched soils, the poor plant roots can roast in the heat.

I love being outside in the garden. I was outside most of yesterday, although I came in frequently to drink something cold and to cool off for a few minutes. My DH is working days this week, and when he left home before 7 am, I was in the garden, and when he arrived home around 5 pm, I was in the garden. Usually if I am out that early, I'm inside to stay by roughly lunch time. The heat and dryness are just taking all the fun of being out in the garden working. If I wasn't watering some, the garden's production would be dropping every week.

Our KBDI is skyrocketing, and we're starting to have little grassfires popping up here and there. So far, they've been pretty easy to stop. I think the biggest one in the last week in our county only burned 15 acres. However, if it is "your" 15 acres, it seems like the worst fire in the world.

Even worse than the heat/dryness is the insects they bring. Once it is this hot, we have epic numbers of spider mites and grasshoppers, and both are almost unstoppable in rural areas in hot weather.

I'm trying really not to "give up" on this year, but more and more the thought in my mind is that surely things will be better in 2013. It is too early to start thinking those thoughts.

Despite the heat and drought (there, I said it....even if the NWS or NOAA or whoever does not agree with me, my summer drought has begun here), the garden is producing so well that I am terribly far behind in harvesting and processing veggies. I am not sure how long that will last in these conditions.

So, I am trying to be positive and have a sunny (pun intended) outlook, but mostly all I'm feeling for this weather is disgust. Hate it, hate it, hate it.


Dawn

Comments (26)

  • susanlynne48
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I feel for you, Dawn. It hasn't been as bad in OKC. We are 2" ahead of rainfall average. We have been right at the Southern edge of storms to the North of us, and right at the Northern edge of storms to the South of us, so we've gotten plenty of good rainfall. Not those quick in and out gully washes that run off and don't soak in either.

    Insects? I have been hand picking a few cucumber beetles, but that's about it. A few grasshoppers, but nothing like the last 2 years. No spider mites or aphids yet either. None of the big bugs you might expect either.

    I thought that low humidity had its good side, too, like better pollination because it doesn't get sticky like it does in high heat and humidity. No? Doesn't low humidity also keep a lot of the fungus diseases at bay?

    I have had some powdery mildew on both ornamentals (Verbena bonariensis is notorious, as is apparently the Coreopsis 'Jethro Tull'), and the cukes, but that's all. Going to have to try to deal with this - probably a milk spray.

    I couldn't ask for a better season so far, but my heart goes out to those of you that haven't had such a good one.

    Maybe your rain will come when you lease expect it, like July and August. We will do a rain dance for you, Dawn!

    Susan


  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Susan,

    Yes, lower humidity has an upside since it doesn't make tomato pollen sticky like high RH does.

    I doubt a rain dance will help, but do feel free to dance to your heart's content. : )

    I've never had powdery mildew on vebena bonariensis, but as you might guess, our RH stays pretty low most of the time which likely helps. I do have spider mites relentlessly attack VB every year, but then, they are so bad here they even attack grasses, so that's not a surprise.

    As dry as it is here and as hard as the heat/dryness are to tolerate, I don't know how Dorothy, Carol and George, and everyone else in their region, can stand how dry it is there. They're usually so much wetter than we are, and if anything, I think they are drier than we are here at this point.

    Today's windy, hot, dry weather is going to be very hard on plants in the western half of the state where the Wind Advisory is in effect.

    I just had such high hopes this year would be better than last year. It is starting to look like it will be very similar. Last May's 7+" of rain carried us into June in decent shape, and we still had rampant wildfires by the end of June. Without that May rainfall here, I am afraid that we'll see fires even earlier.

    Yesterday the rancher across the street was cutting and baling hay and Chris and I were watching and holding our breath and hoping the field or the baler didn't catch on fire. That's nor normally an issue in May. I feel like it is July already!

    I've linked a map from the OK Mesonet that shows the 30-day rainfall as a percentage of average or normal rainfall.

    Dawn

    Here is a link that might be useful:

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    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • telow
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    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • shankins123
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • slowpoke_gardener
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • biradarcm
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Macmex
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Y'all,

    I knew if anyone would understand what I was feeling, it would be all of you.

    I worked in the garden until 12:20 p.m., and when I came inside it was 92 degrees here, and they'd raised our forecast high from 93 to 95. It currently is 96 out there, but since I'm in here, who cares? Well, I'm kidding...I care because the best-looking garden I've ever had is out there withering in the heat. What can you do though? We can't make it rain, and we sure can't control the wind.

    Mia, Thanks for the hugs. I feel loved.

    Terry, Misery loves company, huh. Jay and I have a phrase that covers what you're experiencing. When it rains all around his place or our place but misses our homes, we refer to it as being in the doughnut hole. While we are in the 'hole' of the doughnut, it is the doughnut itself that is getting the rain. It is amazing how often there are years where some of us are in the doughnut hole quite often.

    I loved your comment about the dust in the rain gauge. That's exactly what is in mine too.

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    Every year I look forward to spring so much. Based on past years (except for last year!), it is pretty safe to assume that April, May and June are the "guaranteed" good months with warm temps and plentiful rainfall. Those are the great months for us gardeners. Then, most years, the heat arrives in full force near the end of June and the rainfall tapers off, and we have to just hang on and get through the summer months. Luckily, we have all that May and June rainfall to get us at least partway through July. So, what I'm really irritated about is that the good months of April, May and June aren't so good this year, particularly in terms of rainfall. In early June, I start dreading the big wall of heat that will arrive later in June, but at least I've had a great April, May and early June, right? This year, we don't have that! I won't have to dread the arrival of the real heat late in June, because June temps already are here. At least the nights are still decently cool!

    Dawn

  • MiaOKC
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dawn - sometimes it's all I can do - I don't have enough experience to offer great advice yet... that's your department! Commiseration is my bailiwick for now. Grasshopper has not yet become the master. Give me 20 or so years and I won't feel like an idiot offering the Tomato Queen advice.

    One thought - would there be any benefit to trying to erect shade/wind break structures now to help preserve plant viability a little longer? For example, before the plants are too far gone, maybe putting out sheets/tarps or whatever you can think of will preserve what little moisture they already have. Get out in front of it, as if this is August and not May. I know this isn't feasible for some of your large swaths, but might be beneficial in some areas of the garden. I know the greenhouse is a hothouse in the summer, but maybe you could rig something for your potted tomatoes with tons of shadecloth and open sides or something. Just an idea!

  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Mia, Yes, it could be feasible to errect shade structures. I use shade cloth over some plants every summer, but just not in May. It usually is a July or August kind of thing. I'm thinking of spending time putting up the framing for them next week. Putting up shade cloth is one of those things that help in extreme heat, but I hate to do it too early because shading will slow down growth. I usually do it once the temperatures are at the range where fruit set stops occurring on tomato plants, or roughly when the nights are dropping no lower than 72-75 degrees and the days are exceeding 95 degrees. We're already almost there! (That is part of what is so sad.)

    I don't have enough shade cloth to cover even all of the tomtoes, but will be able to shade about half of them. I have about 300 square feet of shade cloth, not including the greenhouse shadecloth.

    If I could convince OkieTim that we should take the pricey Aluminet shadecloth off the greenhouse and put it over the rows of tomato plants, then I could shade a much larger portion of the garden. I think the shadecloth on the greenhouse is roughly 24' long and 20-22' wide. It isn't like the greenhouse has to be shaded---there's nothing in it but bare tables and empty flats and miscellaeous lawn chairs and tools right now.

    The wind will have to be calm one of these days so we could put up shade cloth. Otherwise, it is a three ring circus to attempt to do it on a windy day.

    Last year I mostly shaded pepper plants because they just couldn't take those temps over 105-110. It helped, but I probably did it too late in the summer to help them enough. This year, I planted the peppers where they are in the shade from 3 pm onward. I am hoping that will be enough shade for them. Most years it would be, but last year it wasn't.

    Most of my container plantings of tomatoes and peppers are lined up on the east side of the barn, so they begin moving from sunlight to shade between about 1 and 2 p.m. I think they will be OK. When I sited them, I was trying to put them where they needed to be for the worst summer weather. In the Peter rabbit garden, I already have shade cloth over the 4 tomato plants in the 200-gallon galvanized stock tank. They are at about their maximum production now since they were planted into that container in February. The plants in the Peter Rabbit Garden will be lucky to make it past June because there is an unmowed cow pasture next door, just over the barbed wire fence and by late June or early July there are hordes of spider mites and grasshoppers moving from that pasture into the PRG. It is my least favorite thing about the PRG and you cannot stop those hordes of spider mites. There are millions or billions of them. I just use the PRG as a fall through spring garden and don't expect much from it in summer, except snakes. It fills up with snakes in the summer. I don't know why. Maybe they are coming there to eat the grasshoppers.

    The wind is blowing like crazy here, and I know it is much worse in western OK. On a day like today, I daydream about moving to San Diego, or Alaska.....but I'd never leave this place. We have the best neighbors in the world living all around us and I love living here. It is just the wacky weather I hate.

    Dawn

  • lat0403
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It sounds like you've moved to southwest Oklahoma. But even we've had rain! Not a whole lot of rain, but we've been above our average all year. If it doesn't rain any more this month, we'll be back under, but I'm used to that.

    It is really really windy here, though. I think the highest gust we've had so far is 46 mph, but it seems to be trying really hard to outdo itself. I think it needs to stop. Sustained wind of 32 mph is bad enough.

    Leslie

  • elkwc
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dawn,
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  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Leslie, Because we had great rain in Jan, Feb and Mar, we might be just about at average for the year-to-date, statistically speaking. It is just that the March rainfall is long gone, the ponds are empty and the ground is cracking badly. You know--typical Oklahoma July or August stuff, only in May. I am so happy y'all have had all that rain you've received this year. Every time I see a storm near your area on the radar, I hope it is raining at your house. You and Jay both get precious little rain in an average year, and far too little rain in a bad year. Y'all both deserve some good rainfall.

    Jay, I hate to hear that grapefruit sized hail is in your forecast. I sure hope it doesn't happen.

    You sure have done a lot of hard work to get your plants off to a great start. I keep telling myself that gardening shouldn't be as hard as the weather here makes it be!

    I've started rereading "The Worst Hard Time" for the umpteenth time. By the time I'm 50 or 60 pages deep in the book, I am so astonished at how awful the Dust Bowl days were that I realize this year's weather surely could be worse. I reread it every summer to help me keep the current summer in perspective.

    The infernal wind is supposed to gust into the 30s all night tonight. I think at this point the wind is harder on the plants than the lack of rain or the heat. At the rate drought-stressed trees are dropping healthy, green limbs in the woods, we aren't going to have much of a woodland left.

    Although it was a quiet day in our county (knock on wood), there were wildfires around us, and some especially big ones in Texas. I don't know exactly where it is coming from, but it is fairly smokey outside tonight. I assume the smoke is being blown here from Texas by the strong winds.

    Dawn

  • tracydr
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm hating our weather, too. 108 two days this week, over 100 all week with 4%, yes, 4% humidity. Spider mites and white flies from hell and the tomatoes won't set because it's TOO dry and HOT!
    It's not even June and I'm sick of summer.
    My husband will be job hunting soon and, as much as I love OK, I'm starting to vote for high altitude. I'm not tolerating much heat any more and would love to live somewhere with cooler summers for a change.
    Tracy

  • biradarcm
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dawn, its for you...
    {{gwi:1100956}}

  • elkwc
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dawn thanks. There are times when you wonder if it is worth it. I had 9 seeds of a scarce variety of bean. I planted them in a bed that I had left mulch on for the last few years. Pulled it back and planted. But left a little old mulch close by. Of the first 3 that sprouted something ate 2/3 of the way through 2 stems and ate the leaves of the 3rd one. So cleaned the mulch away. Had five plants last night. Thought they should be wet enough to make it through the day. By the time I got home all but one looked bad. Two of them revived after I watered them well. Hopefully I can save the 3 to build seed from.

    Then after dark I decided to fix spaghetti. I went out to the garden and pulled two volunteer garlic plants. Not the biggest of the volunteer plants but 2 which I would have to remove before long. One had a scape. I also pulled 5 onions that are just starting to bulb. I cut them up and put them in the spaghetti sauce. And then I remembered why I garden. The best sauce I've had for almost a year. Nothing like the flavor of fresh garlic and onions. I noticed this evening they are saying 86 tomorrow but have raised the 88 for Friday to 96. Hopefully it won't get that hot. Everything made it through the day except the 2 beans I mentioned above. But know the plants are stressing some although they don't show it yet. I probably wouldn't have fed the tomatoes any N if I hadn't steamed the leaves off some in the WOW's and felt I needed to grow some foliage back. The wind is blowing hard now. Jay

  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tracy, I was wondering how you were doing out there in all that heat and with all those wildfires around both in your state and surrounding ones.

    I cannot blame you for thinking of a high altitude location with better summer weather. Who could blame you after all those years in Arizona?

    As bad as spider mites have been here since April, I cannot imagine what they would be like there. I've never had a big whitefly problem here, but am seeing quite a lot this year. It's always something, but this year it is everything.

    Chandra, That's a beautiful photo. Is it your canning closet? My canning closet is a lot smaller and not nearly so full but I hope to fill it up this spring and summer.

    Jay, Your temperatures are getting ridiculous awfully early!

    Sorry about the beans. I know how frustrating that can be.

    Your spaghetti sauce story is a good reminder about why we all do what we do. When any of us are eating from the garden, we have the freshest, best ingredients for our meals. You can't beat that!

    The wind here was in the 20s and up to 30 mph all night long. I am so tired of the wind. It is carrying huge numbers of clouds overhead, so someone north of us has moisture headed their way. All we're gonna have here is higher humidity so we will feel real sticky today.

    Dawn

  • Macmex
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Chandra,

    I use cardboard, from broken down boxes, to place under mulching materials. It helps suppress weeds and conserve moisture. Like Dawn, I don't care how it looks. But, if it's covered up, it "doesn't look." No one sees it.

    Dawn,
    the problem with my corn is that instead of at least 300 plants, I have about a dozen. That's all that germinated before the dryness hit. I suspect the rest of it died in the ground.

    I'm getting more sold on potatoes all the time. Last year they produced well, when everything else failed. This year, they're looking okay. Azul Toro has IMPRESSIVE plants. Can't wait to see the harvest.

    George

  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    George, Oh man, I hope this isn't a corn crop you needed in order to replenish your seed stock. That's just terrible. In the world of "why did this happen", the corn seed sown in heavier clay that had some moisture, but not a lot, was slow to germinate and grow and those plants still are only about 4 or 5" tall despite being about a month old. Meanwhile, the variety sown into very dry sandy soil a couple of weeks later is about 8-10" tall. I would have expected the opposite result because corn usually germinates fine in my dense clay but struggles in the band of sandy soil. This is a crazy, backwards, mixed-up year.

    Like you, we had a simply incredible potato crop last year despite the weather. We harvested hundreds and hundreds of pounds of potatoes. This year's crop will be smaller because the ones in the main bed rotted, but we'll get a really large crop from the ones in the Peter Rabbit Garden. I never thought of potatoes as a heavy producer in our climate, but am finding that as long as I can put them in soil that drains well enough, the heat will not prevent them from producing well.

    Dawn

  • Julie717
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This sky is taunting me today. It keeps clouding up and looking really dark then clearing again.

    My plants are looking pretty decent still, the tomatoes look great, but I wish it would rain. I have been shading the two plants that get the most sun because they were looking shrimpy and the leaves were rolling up. I just cut an old car-window sunshade in half and attached them on top of the cages with clothespins. I take them off when it's really windy (like today) or might rain. It looks pretty redneck, but the plants seem to like the extra shade.

  • spademilllane
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Reading this thread makes me pine for the warmth in Oklahoma. Here in the Rockies the highs are in the low 70s and the thermometer still dipped to about 40 this morning. Last weekend moisture came as a "wintry mix" of snow and light drizzle and left fresh snow on the mountain peaks. Going out in the morning and evening still requires a light jacket. The good news is the columbines are in beautiful bloom. . . .I could never get them to grow as they should in OK.

  • soonergrandmom
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    spademilllane - Put the bean pot on and expect company because we are all coming to Colorado to get away from the heat.

    We still have friends in Denver from when we lived there years ago. A few years ago, they rented a cabin up in the mountains and we all went there for a few days vacation arriving on July 5th. We drove through snow to get there, and wore jackets in the evening and early morning the entire time. The guys caught trout and we cooked it as soon as they brought it back. We had a fun time.

  • Okiedawn OK Zone 7
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Robert! I'd gladly trade weather with you today. At our house, the low temp since midnight is 74 and the high temp so far is 93. Enjoy the columbines! I miss seeing you here and hope all is going well for you. Our lawn, which we have not watered, is sort of brown and sort of green in a sort of paisley pattern. It is going to be a long, hot miserable summer.

    Carol, Sounds like a great idea to me! I'll bring cornbread muffins to go with that pot of beans.

    Dawn

  • miraje
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I can't really complain here. There have been a few days where small showers formed right over us or the storms trained over just the right spot to give us a decent amount. But despite the favorable rainfall, I'm still not getting great yields. I still don't have a ripe tomato yet, though several plants are close. I've picked a few handfuls of green beans but it's not even enough for a full meal between me and DH. The squash isn't even close to ready yet, though I did plant it a bit later than you did, Dawn. I've picked maybe 15 squash bugs off the summer squash already and loads of eggs, so that's getting old. About half my lettuce has bolted, and I'm sure the rest will any day now. I've already ripped out the peas and will probably plant more bush beans this weekend.

    Worst of all, my morning (all day) sickness has really limited how much time I can spend out there, so I'm losing the battle with the weeds. Ugh. But, hey, at least the rain is going right. I have run the drip irrigation a few times already though, mainly for the small seedlings because the top few inches dry out so fast.

  • soonergrandmom
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I still have peas doing OK on one trellis, but the other needs to be removed. We have had all of the green beans we wanted to eat every day for a week or more, but now they have gotten ahead of us and I have a bag full I need to freeze. I will can some when the main crop of beans start, but that hasn't happened yet. I cut my first head of broccoli yesterday. They are in various stages of growth so the cutting may go on for awhile.

    I have been stretching soaker hose, and digging trenches along the cattle panels to make watering a little easier since it has been necessary this week. Our forecast shows isolated thunder storms for Mon-Thu, so maybe some of them will come our way.

    So far everything has done fine except for the Chinese cabbage that the bugs feasted on. I will prepare better for them next year, but the Harlequin bugs were a surprise for me this Spring. The first year they have ever been a problem. I'm beginning to see a little leaf damage on the broccoli but since it will be ready soon, I'm not too worried about it. I'm just sharing with the bugs I guess.

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