Objective Proof for Organic vs. Non-organic?
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Organic Seeds Vs Non Organic
Comments (23)There actually are some gmo seeds on the market that consumers can buy. According to Fedco ( where I get most my seed) Burpee golden beet is a Gmo? I have been growing that for years not knowing. It's germination and growth rate was slow. I now use detroit golden and golden mangel an heirloom seed. I cannot imagine that using treated seed has a noticable impact on the soil or the plant it produces. It's a religion, like Mac vs Pc. and organic is the pasword these days. I grow my stuff organically because I get free manure and I like what it does to my otherwise marginal soil. I also don't like handling chemicals and spraying them on the food I eat or give away. I use neam oil for aphids and it works ok, nothing for root maggots, just plant a few extra plants for the bugs etc. I have less than an acre in cultivation so managment is fairly easy. I also grow under various types of mulch, a winner all the way from my way of thinking. I had the opportunity to chat with a fellow that travels the world resurecting sick forests with proprietary enzymes he has created. He also tests soil and vegitbles with frequency devices he created in his labs to determine health. A healthy vegitable will sit on your kitchen counter for a long time and dehydrate, an imballanced one will rot fairly fast. It was indicated to me that some of the worst vegitable frequencies come from all chemical fertilized and all organically fertilized gardens and the combination of the two fertilezers produced the best produce, for what is is worth. The debate is likely to go on for some time....See MoreOrganic Seed vs Non Organic Seed
Comments (0)If I am planting a veggie garden and polan for it to be organic, should I use organic seed? Wheat is the difference? I thought"organic" was once it is in the ground, growing it organic. Help my understand. Thanks Jeff...See MoreOrganic vs non organic seeds?
Comments (6)It would be more important if you are a Organic Farmer, I would guess, in order to be accredited, I have a mix of both organic and non organic seed, mainly cos a lot of stuff I wanted was only available organic? but I am a Brit so maybe I am looking for strange stuff or I have been buying organic for years and not known it? I think the important thing is, if you feel comfortable with it? if you are going to be organic how far are you willing to go and the answer I feel lies in the question! you wouldn't have asked if you really want to be 100% organic, so buy the seeds that you want and don't worry, I use as much "natural" stuff as I can but am not adverst to chemicals when I need them, But I really, really have to be pushed to the extreme to do this, as in this year, I have admitted to myself I can live without cauliflower, egg plant and lettice this year all all have been gobbled up!, I will try again in the fall! but now wait!!! today I found a lettice in what I thought was a previously defunked row going strong...Yah!...See Moremiddle of the road gardener/ organic/ non organic
Comments (16)I also consider myself a middle of the road gardener. I try to take advantage of any organic matter that I have. But you can have too much of it as anything else. If you try to grow plants in 100% organic matter you will likely have problems such as draining or compaction even low fertility; because your plant swill not be able to use the elements It contains First the organisms in the soil must break it down into a soluble form the plant can take up in its roots. Most experienced gardeners have an understanding of the importance of the NPK and trace elements. They are important to the plants and also to the microbes and fungi, as well as us animals. I see people that use buzz words and terms such as organic vs inorganic, synthetic vs natural chemicals. Salts are bad for the environment. No till is better than tilling the soil. But the simple fact is the world is made of chemicals, including life. All chemicals are made from the basic elements, and by definition natural. If the elements in a chemical are the same it makes no difference to the plants if they are manmade or by any other organism. Salts are bad because they can build up in the soil.. That is possible but it is not a common occurrence. It happens primarily in deserts where there is not enough rainfall. I would offer the chemical definition of a salt. Chemistry. any of a class of compounds formed by the replacement of one or more hydrogen atoms of an acid with elements or groups, which are composed of anions and cations, and which usually ionize in solution; a product formed by the neutralization of an acid by a base. The key words for this topic are; which usually ionize in solution: that is dissolves in water. I would say that when most people see or hear the word salt they think of table salt Sodium chloride, which has little use in the garden. But there are many chemicals classed as salts. Plants can only take minerals from the soil when they are dissolved in water, and for the most part those chemicals are salts. No till is better than tilling the soil. It is true you can over till your soil if you pulverize it to the point it causes compaction. But the reason for tilling soil is to mix up the top mostly organic layer with the mineral nutrients in the lower area. And to incorporate air which is as important to the biomass of the soil as water. If you make your own compost you know how much faster things happen when you turn your compost pile. That is you are tilling your compost. Even no till lasagna gardens are tilled but it is primarily done by earth worms. Worms are great but they are much slower than a garden tiler or garden fork....See Moresc77 (6b MA)
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