Deodar Cedar? Sugar maple? Something else?
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Slug damage on my baby Sugar Maples
Comments (10)I need to correct something I said above, and that is what we have every time we dig a hole are grubs not slugs. I'm sorry that I confused the two.. :But when I looked online the holes on my little maples, that are 3 ft tall, look exactly like slug damage. After reading all of your responses and after realizing I confused grubs and slugs, I need to rethink my strategy of how to stop these holes in my leaves. Edited to add I can get you pictures in a little bit, after dh wakes up. He doesn't have to go into work til 11am this morning.. He's the one who posts my pictures, since I don't know how to do it. This post was edited by ilovemytrees on Fri, Jun 6, 14 at 7:12...See Moreblack maple vs. sugar maple
Comments (8)We have one black maple and three sugar maples in our lawn. The black maple was purchased from a local nursery here in West Central Minnesota, with the understanding it was a "green mountain" sugar maple. As it was the first maple we had ever planted, we didn't realize that it was different from typical sugar maples until 20 years later when we decided to plant some more sugar maples. Now, 15 years after the sugar maples were planted, we can clearly see the difference between the two species (some experts prefer to call black maple a subspecies of sugar maple). The black maple has much larger leaves that are rather leathery and always look drooped. Initially, we thought that the droopiness was due to its location in a full sun, rather windy spot. But, after 35 years, the droopy leaves are always like that, and they are always leathery too. The large leaf size always receives comments from visitors. Fall coloration probably isn't all that much different than our sugar maples, but I feel the colors have more punch/vividness to them. Also, the leaves hang on much longer than on the sugar maples, having begun to change color at least one week before the sugar maples, and keeping it at least a week longer as well. It is worth noting that the black maple begins to turn color rather slowly and progresses throughout the tree over a span of about 4 weeks. As I write this in mid-October, there are still some green leaves on the north side of the tree's crown, while the vibrant reds and oranges that first appeared on the south side have now been blown off the tree in the past 3 days when 30+ mph winds came through. All of our sugar maples were purchased with the "Green Mountain" tag affixed to them. They have smaller leaves and all seem to turn color about the same time, and rather quickly at that, from green to full orange color in about a week's time. The sugar maples we have have grown much more rapidly than the black maple. The first 10-15 years, the black maple grew very slowly on our yellow clay, well drained soil. After 15 years, it seemed to pick up the pace somewhat, perhaps due to having a well established root system. Then again, it may simply be characteristic of black maple to grow slowly. We have wanted to intentionally purchase another black maple or two to grace some added space we have in our lawn. However, no nurseries have been found that offer it. Strange, as the black maple is an outstanding shade tree! What I have reported is based only on our personal experience with one specimen. Maybe others with black maples would care to offer some of their experiences to this thread as well. DarylJ...See MoreDeodar cedar as speciman tree in yard?
Comments (14)hairmetal: I wouldn't rule out "decline or removal due to non-hardiness related factors" as the reason for so few large cedars in the DC area. For example I remember a big one on Trap Rd. or thereabouts in Vienna, VA. At some point in the mid to late 00s, the last time I drove through that part of Fairfax County, I noticed it had been cut down. It was along the road, by a house that was close to the road, and I suspect either the utility or the owner decided it was just dominating the lot and the power lines too much. As I've noted about hollies, large, dark trees for some reason scare some homeowners. Elsewhere there was a huge Cedar of the Atlas or Lebanon pursuasion...I could not be sure. It's the one I posted a picture of a while ago. It seems ot have some kind of foliar disease or decline. Maybe caused by soil compaction, herbicide damage or whatnot. I was aware of that tree and it was definitely not damaged in 1994, cause I did landscaping the following summer and I remember seeing it. But yes, the winters of the late 70s, mid 80s and 1994 could have weeded some more tender strains of deodara out....See MoreSugar Maple Tree Won't Grow
Comments (7)Hi Steve, I can’t tell you what you should do but I will share my story. I moved into a house with a red maple, planted by previous owners shortly before they sold the house. I watched that tree just stall for 15 years before I had enough. Every year it leafed out and seemed to be okay, but it never got any taller, and only got a tiny bit wider. Finally I asked DH to wrap a chain around it and yank it out. It came right up, because the roots had grown into a coil (think shape of a small pot, with roots going round and round.) It was choking itself to death. I kind of regret that I waited so long, as I can’t get those 15 years back. I’ve learned that next time, if I’m not happy, be done with it - or maybe plant a replacement nearby and give it a firm deadline - grow or get out....See MoreWayne Reibold
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