Old timey cornfield pumpkin seed
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Old Timey Cornfield Pumpkin
Comments (2)It is a c. moschata. I'm not familiar with Kentucky Field Pumpkin. But this one is definitely an Appalachian heirloom, from South Carolina. I got my seed from Roger Winn. Here's the link to the original posting, which I apparently forgot to include earlier ;) Here is a link that might be useful: Old Timey Cornfield Pumpkin Thread...See MoreRecalitrant Pole Bean/ Cherokee Striped Cornfield
Comments (1)George, All of this is so interesting. I know that Insuk's Wang Kong doesn't set well in heat, but I keep trying to grow it anyhow. It would be worth growing just for its beauty, especially when in bloom. I do expect it will do better as a fall bean than a spring bean. I'm just hardheaded and want to grow what I want to grow, even if it won't produce well here. I'm planting Scarlet Runner Bean just for the flowers for the hummers. It never sets many pods for me either but it is gorgeous when in bloom. It is interesting that your Fowler bush bean crossed with the RAMPANT bean. Wouldn't it be great if you could get Fowler's heat and drought-tolerance and high productivity in a rampant pole bean? If you could get a pole bean that would produce well all summer in our heat like Fowler bush bean does, that would be pretty awesome. I can't help thinking that with Cherokee Striped Cornfield, it has to be the heat or that a shortening daylength triggers blooming or something. I find the heat here impedes pole bean production more than it used to, if that makes any sense. Is that climate change? In the early 2000s through at least 2007, I distinctly remember growing pole beans and harvesting from them in the hot summer months. They might shut down for a while it August, but not for long. You don't forget standing out there in the sweltering heat picking a multitude of beans from the bean teepees. Since 2007? I get some pole beans harvested early from spring blooms, then a huge lull in July and August where the flowers won't form beans, then if I can keep the plants alive through the long hot summer (or if I plant more in late July for fall beans), I'll be picking pole beans in October. I suppose this is one reason I have switched more and more to bush beans. They don't produce well in heat either, but since a lot of them produce earlier than many pole beans, they still produce a good harvest. I just can't help thinking that since 2007 we have had too much heat too early for the pole beans to have a chance to set many beans. The insane heat that used to arrive in July or August seems to arrive earlier....like in June. It seems to shut down the pole beans almost before they start. Another thing I've noticed? Flat-podded pole beans of the romano bean type will set better for me in heat than regular more rounded snap beans or even cutshort types. Why is that? Is is something in their genetic heritage that allows them to set beans better in extreme heat? I wish I knew. Still, at least Rattlesnake will set beans almost all summer long so at least there's that. This year I'm trying Tenderstar. (Back to that hardheadness of mine that makes me want to grow beans that don't want to grow here....) It is a commercial variety from Europe that is a cross of a French pole bean and a runner bean, and they list it as P. coccineus, so you know that means that growing it here may not work out well. I hope it flowers and sets beans well here, but I know there's a pretty good chance it won't. Still, in the photos of it, the pods look sort of semi-flat. Maybe they are more rounded than a typical Roman bean, but there is a lot of flatness to them so I am hoping that part of their heritage enables them to produce well here despite the heat. I'm always overrun with pole beans in October. I just wish they'd produce as well in July and August as they do prior to that (if planted early enough) or after the heat drops in autumn. The list of bean varieties I'm growing this year is huge. I hope I don't run out of room for them before I get them all planted. Dawn...See MoreGarden Pics
Comments (25)Boy, those must be some huge tamales Jerreth makes! LOL I've always wanted to make tamales, as I love them but if I made them I'd use less fat so they probably wouldn't taste right. There used to be a man in Bartlesville who would set up a stand on the corner somewhere. My Dad would buy from him on his way home from work. We didn't get to "eat out" in those days so it was a real treat for Dad to bring those home. Of course that was years and years ago and I'm sure the man probably died before I started working in Bartlesville in the early 1980's. That or they quit allowing him to sell on the corner. That's a nice looking pumpkin patch, I'll be interested to hear how they taste. If they all look different from one another, I imagine they taste different from one another, too? Do the seeds all look the same? I'm still watching my one little Warsaw Buff pumpkin. It changed color but I noticed that it has some faint green streaks in the buff so I held off picking it. Larry, my Dad had a paw-paw tree that would make maybe one or two small paw-paws every year. He was so proud of that and he would eat those paw-paws all himself, cutting them up in his hand with his trusty pocket-knife. This was back in the days when no self-respecting man would be caught without a pocket-knife in his pocket. I think it would've gone gang-busters if he had planted a second one, to polinate. Quailhunter, I do love the heirloom tomatoes and the fact that I can save the seed but if I continue to have as much trouble with disease as I have had last year and this year, I may consider going to the more disease-resistant hybrids myself. I may buy a pack of those Whopper seed and give them a try....See MoreOld Timey Cornfield Pumpkin
Comments (3)Larry, I almost never have pumpkins or winter squash split---only in the very wettest part of the very wettest years....like in 2007 or 2004. When it happens, it likely is because of excess rainfall, but we've had plenty of times when a particularly heavy rainfall in the midst of an otherwise dry year did not result in any cracking. On the rare occasions when I've had pumpkins or winter squash crack, it hasn't happened with Old Timey Cornfield Pumpkin, Long Island Cheese, Sugar Pie or Seminole. It has happened with green-striped cushaw or with some of the orange pumpkins that are grown as ornamental types for autumn decorations. I think that it is possible that the really hard shell on the C. moschata types may help prevent them from cracking. George grows a lot more Old Timey Cornfield pumpkins than I do (though I do have one OTCP plant in the cornfield this year) and he grows them in an area that generally gets more rain than my part of the state, so he likely can tell you more about whether they crack in eastern OK. They don't in my part of southern OK, but then we rarely get big rainfall here during pumpkin growing season. I generally don't harvest winter squash/pumpkins until they are fully ripe,unless I am harvesting the last ones from the plant on the day before a hard freeze is expected to occur overnight. I am not sure what quality the flesh would be if you harvest them early. I usually wait until the pumpkin rind is very hard (so hard you cannot make a dent in it by pressing hard with your fingernail) before harvesting, or another sign they are ready is that the stem is very hard, dry and starting to crack. Have you had a huge amount of rainfall all of a sudden? Dawn...See Moreseedmama
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Macmex
11 years agoAh, Dana beat me to it. I could have sent you some. The only commercial source, that I know of, is Sandhill Preservation Center. I bet there are a good many synonyms out there: squash which are almost identical if now identical, but which go by other names.
Remember, Old Timey Cornfield Pumpkin has RAMPANT vines. However, I dearly love it. It is a sure fire producer, even in drought.
George
Tahlequah, OK
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