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Would you be suspicious---? (6-pics./1-graphic)

16 years ago

I purchased an 'Abba Dabba Do', for my neighbor as a "Thank You" for watering my hosta while away for a

week! It's a large luscious pot of it but, after getting home with it, and taking a closer look---I am very

reluctant to give it away because of the pattern of markings on some of the leaves!

Am I being 'Virus-Phobic'???

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ctopher_mi
16 years ago
Hi Janice,

No, you are not being virus phobic at all. That is definitely virus.

Chris
dbowemd
16 years ago
I agree looks viral, but might be different than HVX.
Dave
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Janice
Original Author
16 years ago
Groan--I was sure it was, too!!! Sigh! I tried to look up other virus possibilities, but found pic. examples sadly lacking!

Okay--back to the nursery with this one--I know I won't be very popular with them for this! They were very unhappy
when I returned a nematode infested one last year! They tried to tell me they found no evidence of them, but I did---definitely
confirmed it with the magnifying glass, etc. Hard to deny when you see one of those things wriggling madly in the water!!

Okay--thanks guys--I knew I could count on you!!! :o)
Janice
Original Author
16 years ago
Hey Chris--you don't, by chance, have any photos of the 'Mosaic' virus on a hosta--do you? Or, any of the others?
I am confused, because it also sounds like the 'mosaic' symptom, is sometimes identified with the HVX, too!

Do you think, that all the symptoms, being presented on hosta, fall under the X virus, alone? I would be surprised
if there were truly only one virus out there!
Janice
Original Author
16 years ago
Here is one of the viruses, I'm wondering about--Tobacco Rattle Virus! I found some info and a pic. of this one:

"The symptoms of Tobacco Rattle Virus (TRV) include dark and light green mottling on the leaves, pale green spots that can die and become brown, necrotic spots. TRV is a European virus that is becoming more common in the United States as more and more ornamentals are sold internationally. Unlike Hosta Virus X, which only infects hostas, TRV has a wide host range including vegetables like beets, tomatoes, and spinach, as well as many ornamentals like tulip, daffodil, gladiolas, coral bells, bleeding heart, calendula, sunflower, and many more. TRV also infects common weeds like lambs quarter, black night shade, and pigweed.

Unfortunately TRV is much more difficult to control than Hosta Virus X. TRV is spread by a trichodorid nematode, a microscopic worm-like creature that lives in the soil and feeds on plant roots. Through these nematodes the virus can be spread from plant to plant. Chemicals to kill these nematodes are highly toxic and not commonly available to homeowners. Once in the garden the virus may infect multiple plants and be very difficult to get rid of. Prevention is the best form of control for TRV. In the nursery, hostas are typically infected with TRV through an infected stock plant and will almost always display symptoms. If you avoid hostas with viral symptoms you have a good chance of avoiding TRV altogether."

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I wonder how many of us have this one, and put it off thinking it's just 'that time of year' etc.? Yikes!!
Janice
Original Author
16 years ago
Sorry to dominate my own thread, but I'm 'doing the work' to better educate myself further on the topic of viruses in hosta!

Here is an excerpt about the 'Arabis Mosaic Virus' from an article put out by the 'Kansas Department of Agriculture':

"Arabis mosaic virus was reported for the second time of the season from imported hosta..The plants were shipped in from South Carolina. The variety
was Gold Standard....It can be transmitted by nematodes of the genus.."

More on the various viruses hosta seem particularly susceptible to:

Several viruses including Hosta virus X (HVX), Tobacco rattle virus (TRV), Tobacco ringspot virus (ToRSV), Tomato ringspot virus (TomRSV), Impatiens necrotic spot virus (INSV), and Tomato spotted wilt virus (TSWV) are known to occur in hostas (4). This report confirms the occurrence of an additional virus, Arabis mosaic virus (ArMV), in hostas in North America. This virus was first identified during the summer of 2004 in Hosta fortunei ÂSharmonÂ in several garden centers in Minneapolis and St. Paul, MN. Entire lots of this variety, numbering several dozen plants, showed symptoms consisting of blanching of the foliage similar to those caused by ToRSV and TomRSV infection (4). Symptoms persisted throughout the growing season.B. E. L. Lockhart, Department of Plant Pathology, University of Minnesota, St. Paul 55108-6030

Anyone recognize the name of the author of the above article?:O) I guess he should know what he's talking about--hopefully! Here's the link to the whole *read* if you like:
The whole article by Lockhart

Below is another good read on the visual presentation, or symptoms of the HVX:

Here is a link that might be useful: Article on the manifestations of HVX
ademink
16 years ago
I'm thinking mosaic virus. eek!
Janice
Original Author
16 years ago
I returned the hosta with no problem. Where I got it, is the only nursery in our area that I really trust, anymore.
I know that they would never knowingly sell a hosta with such a problem! I have a feeling, though, that the lady
that took it back, may think I'm a bit 'over the top' in my concern. It was a very friendly exchange but you know
how you can just tell....! ;o) It was the same lady that questioned my diagnosis of the nematodes, last year.
She really is a lovely person, though--and I enjoy shopping there largely because of the personnel! I've shopped there
for 35 years, I think!

But--these doggoned viruses are a real problem for everyone in the chain! I feel badly for all concerned! I think, by the time
everyone realized there was a problem, with the HVX, it was already pretty much too late to really ever get control over it
completely, again! And, with some of the others, being transmitted via nematodes---really seems hopeless to me!!
What a shame!
lynnem
16 years ago
Interesting photos, though.. it does look like a snake has worked it's way thru the leaves..

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