Where to buy T8 48-inch bulbs with over 3000 lumens?
johnndc
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Changing from T8s to big honkin' cfls?
Comments (3)1. I believe the light is the ultra mega coil 85 watt actual usage CFL at 5000k. I don't know where one gets it online, as there is a store specializing in lightbulbs here in Austin. There's a specialty store for everything here in Austin. Additionally, I have had good results with the 42 w at 5100k and the 40 w at 3000k. They are less expensive too. 2. I haven't used T8's, but my lights hang no more than 8 inches from the tops of the plants. 3. The 40 and 42 watt can go in any standard 60 watt lamp/light fixture. For the 85 watt I had to get a 125 watt clamp light socket. 4. I don't know. But here's some food for thought... Tubes put out their light over the length of the bulb (2-4 ft) with the brightest light being in the middle. CFL's concentrate all the light into a much smaller area. You get more light per "quadrant", but the "quadrants" are smaller, and thus more numerous. 5. Mine are on for 16 hrs/day now and will eventually be down to 12 when the solstice rolls around. 6. I don't know, but I'd imagine if the plant is prone to it, and it's getting more light, and growths mature faster, then yes. 7. Heat. While CFL's don't create that much heat relative to other bulbs, the bulbs will be hot to the touch and plants will burn if they even brush against them. I burned the pants off a mottled leaf paph under a 40 and 42 w about 4 inches away. Consider an oscillating fan blowing on the lights 24/7 too cool them and for better air circulation. Hope this helps Bob...See Moret8 lighting for african violets? please help asap!!
Comments (18)Wow those are beautiful NOIDS @anon-cdn!. so there is hope for T8 shoplights after all!. and here I was debating on if I should put a layer of window screening under the tubes to help dapple the light lol. but as we can see t8 does work just the way it is! thanks @anon-cdn! now I feel much better about splurging on T8 lol. I just wish T12 didn't die out they worked so well for me and everyone else on violets and u can keep those T12 shoplights lower-10 inches lol. Im doing wall shelving-where u have a shelf on the wall. above that do another shelf where u hang your shoplight from. I can do several shoplights that way and at the same time doesn't take up floor space. got the idea online lol! here is a pic of where I got the idea from, pretty good idea. this way you just take up wall space and leaves your floor space free. notice in the pic, its just a simple wooden shelf with a wall bracket. and directly above that at the proper height you do another shelf, same size and that's where u hang ur shoplight under then the chain suspends it. good idea, simple. leaves floor space totally free and same time doesn't clutter your room up with stands! not to mention this is by far the cheapest method ($3 each if that for a simple 48x12 wooden pine board cut at home depot. two bucks for shelf brackets. $20 for a t8 shoplight) where as if u use stands u got to buy a stand first (usually $40 or more...some are $119 at home depot for the edsal 48x24x74h storage shelving unit five tier) add to that shoplights. tubes. ur pushing $200. so choice is clear this is the cheapest route! :) plus I have all my floor space FREE...See MoreT8 Bulbs at 4100K
Comments (10)paying more than $2 for a bulb is a waste of money. Actually, getting anything less than the most efficient tube is a waste of money. Over 90% of the cost of fluorescent lighting is the electricity. Getting a tube even 10% less efficient to save yourself a dollar or two up front is not only worse for the plants, it is worse for your pocket. The hardest thing to judge is the lumen maintenance. Fluorescent tubes used to lose so much light after a few thousand hours that growers would throw them away after six months. The best modern fluorescent tubes lose so little light after even 20,000 hours or more that it is hardly measurable. There are still enough old spec tubes around that the cheapest tube in most stores is not the one to buy, the best performance comes for a dollar or two more, then with the very expensive tubes you are paying for things like wide spectrum, specialist colours, or very high colour rendition that you probably don't care about for raising seedlings. The Philips 741 cool white tubes are pretty good but the high spec Philips 841 tubes (or the Sylvania that I mentioned) are certainly brighter, last better, and look better, for human eyes at least. The 741 tubes use halophosphates and so the spectrum is a little different, you might want to argue that they are equally effective for plants. Unless you have strong feelings about the spectrum, I suggest getting the slightly more expensive 841 tubes. But then if you have strong feelings about the spectrum you shine on your plants, you will probably wish to purchase a much more expensive high-CRI light or special grow light ;) The "leaning" experiment is not proof that the seedlings actually grow better under cool whites, but it is a good demonstration that blue wavelengths control the shape and orientation of plants. Fluorescents with more blue wavelengths such as the cool whites will generally produce more compact seedlings although experiments suggest that plants grow just as much (total yield by mass) under the warm whites. A mix of 6500K and 3000K fluorescents produces almost exactly the same spectrum as 4100K fluorescents, which may be handy to know if you are using compact fluorescents that may be hard to find in cool white....See MoreFor reference: Footcandle measurements for a two-bulb T8 fixture
Comments (52)Hi Zink, I have just done several days of online research regarding fluorescent lights. During all of my online travels, far and wide, you appear to be the number one expert on the subject. So, if you could please indulge me just a quick question, that would really be appreciated. My goal is to get as close to the ideal Photopic curve without spending too much money, or having to go to great lengths to actually find the bulbs. So my parameters are: * good spectrum for plant growth * easy to find * inexpensive My thought is that I should combine several types of bulbs to achieve close t an ideal spectrum. The shrubs I'm growing have a distinct vegetative and flowering cycle. So my plan is to change the light configuration when I switch them over to flowering. I want to start off with a Blue-shifted light setup. So I am thinking that I will use 3 Daylight Deluxe for the blue part and then a Red-shifted bulb to compliment that. The Red-shifted bulb is where the question arises. I am unable to locate a Warm White Deluxe bulb anywhere. They just don't seem to carry them anymore. In fact, I really have very few options for the red shifted spectrum. The best bulb that I have found, is a GE Soft White from Home Depot. I was concerned at first because it doesn't say "deluxe". The bulb provides 3300 lumens at a temperature of 3000K. But the interesting part is this bulb has an 85 CRI. I have been unable to locate a SPD graph for this particular bulb. However, the high-ish CRI is a tip to me that it is using a wider spectrum than your normal Warm or Soft bulb. Can you comment on whether my hunch is correct here? Or perhaps you have an SPD for this bulb that you could share? So, my setup will be something like this: For Vegetative: 3 Daylight Deluxe with a Soft White For Flowering: 3 Soft White with a Daylight Deluxe. Zink, in all your wisdom, can you comment on my setup and let me know if there might be an easy-to-find, cost-effective, better solution for filling in the Red and/or Blue spectrum? Thanks! And if you want to go ahead and post the spreadsheet with all of that spectral data you have collected, please be my guest!...See Moreshrubs_n_bulbs
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