That stinks but at least you got the first mess out of the way. It's makes the others easier, kind of like the first door ding. I remember I'd just bought a brand new convertible and thought I was so cool (I was 21 or 22). It was a beautiful day so I went to visit a friend to show off my new car. She lived in a basement apartment so I didn't realize that we were having a downpour. Yes, my new car was flooded with a couple inches of water : ( I just got a variegated COT. The foliage is really pretty, lots of color, not just green and white. It's a bit beat up from shipping but I'll take pics when it recovers.

sharbear50(6a Bella Vista) - Hi, my son was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 13. He has been on all kinds of meds. He used Enbrel until that quit working and now is using Celebrex. A natural product that he has found to give him additional relief is Turmeric. In cultures that are thousands of years old, there tend to be deep traditions of cooking daily meals with medicinal roots and herbs. Turmeric is one such medicinal root that has made its way into many Indian recipes. Research shows that turmeric has powerful anti-inflammatory, anti-tumor, and antioxidant properties. Inflammation, if left untreated, can become a chronic health issue. And unlike aspirin or ibuprofen, turmeric's curcumin reduces inflammation naturally, without damaging the liver or kidneys. Here is a link that may be helpful. - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/04/26/the-spice-that-actually-doubles-as-a-powerful-antiinflammatory.aspx I truly feel your pain. Jackie

Hi: joanne :) ...are archived posts at bottom of page the same thing as the page numbers I see? Karin :) ...thanks for the suggestion of your name...it forced me to copy and paste which led me to copy and paste Irinas too ... before I really couldn't find her posts because I wasn't posting Irina_co .... and she is the one who I think is most expert on hydroton and avs. anyway .... I think some of the confusion has lifted ... :) foodsaver ... i'm totally grateful to them for sponsoring, if they do...it must cost an unbelievable amount to keep this site running. Usually no matter how often I go back and try to use different links to get back to the forum i'm still in facebook ...so then I just close down and re open. it is frustrating when photos disappear .... I don't think I need to use photobucket etc (here at GW)... unless the kb's of the photo are too large for the rules.... but up until now I haven't had gw deny any of my photos ... so I have no idea... I just read from one poster that the photos were supposed to be 64kb...and my minimum size is probably 200kb....

Oh, so that's what it looks like under all those leaves. That community pot might not actually need another plant, Nicholas. Maybe a rock, until those other plants fill out a little bit more. OT: @plantmanagerkaren--No, ma'am. I've only had this one ID since I discovered plants a couple of years ago. "Fakechuchi" is what my sister and I call adeniums, as opposed to "realchuchi" or plumerias. Pagan