New Hoya Trellis Idea
I have come up with a new hoya trellis idea that I would like to share with all, it starts with a folding wire 18" x 10' fence that can be purchased from Wal-Mart for $2.50.
it is made up of 8 sections that look like this:
The first step is to cut the sections apart by snipping the connecting wire:
you then have 8 individual trellis that look like this:
You then bend the wires in slightly thus:
And this is the final, this picture is a H. cumingiana just starting to be trained on the 18 inch trellis and at $2.50 for 8 peices that comes to about 32 cents for each trellis. The trick is not to pre-bend the wires too much so that the new trellis will have enough spring to cling firmly to the pot after you insert it, if done correctly it almost becomes one with the pot.
Now for the best part, at Home Depot and Lowes for about $6 you can buy a 32 inch version of the fence:
And here are three pictures of the 32 inch trellis' that cost be approx. 75 cents each. They are from Top to Bottom H. cinnamomifolia, H. australis and H. archboldiana all being trained on the 32 inch trellis'
Enjoy -Leon
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Comments (14)> unless you are refilling the water level daily - does it matter to the plants how fast the excess water evaporates? Fast over one day, or Slow over several days, but the same amount of moisture either way. You assume with hydroton at the bottom the water will evaporate over, say, a day, then the hydroton will be dry till the next watering. That does not need to happen. You can have enough water underneath (and enough hydroton to raise the pots so they are not in a puddle), so that the stronger evaporation still last for the whole time between waterings. Then humidity will be both higher and long lasting. > I guess the downside is that [hydroton is] much more expensive In my case, I bought a big bag a growstones without having a clear plan for them other than a little experiment here and there - so whenever I say hydroton, I actually mean growstones in my case, and I already have a bag. But you are right, of course. Re comparing Chula's smallest pots. I exchanged emails with Harry, and here is the summary of all the differences: 2.25 NCUV: uneven bottom (I put insect screen on the bottom of my pots, and looks like this may be a [small] issue); annoying top ridge; no legs/risers; lighter weight; more see-through. 2.25 SLOTS: more level bottom; smooth top /no ridge; little leg risers; heavier; more opaque. Both have some good advantages - I might just get half of each. > There seem to be two main overlaps with Hoya people. Orchids and Succulents. Good observation. And people who like hoyas with succulent leaves also tend to (surprise!) like succulents. I am not among them, by the way. Hoya kerrii or obovata do very little for me. I mean I'd grow them, but they wouldn't raise my pulse like many others do. Which probably explains why my succulents and cacti combined pots could look better than they do, AND I have little desire to do anything about it. Anyway, that's a tangent. Doug, thanks for chiming in - I thought GG and I lost others a long time ago here. :-) > There is a certain type of personality, that dips their toe in and is quickly up to their neck. The byline of my plants photo album on facebook says very tongue-in-cheek "I can quit any time, OK?" :-) I definitely feel the orchid attraction. What's pulling me back a bit is how ugly most of them look out of bloom (unlike many hoyas!) The leaves are nothing to write home about. When I mentioned this at an Orchid Society meeting, one woman replied, "Eugene, you just need A LOT of orchids, and then something will always be in bloom to distract you from the ugly foliage". HAHAHA, looks like they heard it all before and are well prepared with a perfectly logical "let's submerge to the neck" kind of answer. I have 9 orchids, but there's space on the stand which I bet will not remain empty forever. Back to hoyas... > I have to vote against the hydroton as a replacement for egg crate as I have been there and done that. The biggest problem was having the roots grow through the pots and attach themselves to the hydroton. Well, as you said, the stability insert helps with this. Those roots will have to grow through the insect netting (I'll probably have that depending on the size of the drain holes), out the pot, then around the stability insert pocket, find those holes (they are small and few from the looks of it), and into the hydroton last. They wouldn't attach too firmly, I guess, because I'd be taking the insert out of the tray once a month or so for their showers, and maybe more often for other reasons like watering or draining. > the roots grow through the pots and attach themselves to the hydroton, which makes them very hard to re-pot when the need arises. I imagine you try to dislodge the clinging hydroton or if that does not work, cut the roots just above the highest hydroton ball under the pot. This looks to be minimal root pruning to me - but I appreciate practical experiences, of course, 'cause I am all about theory here. :-) This is a good problem to have, anyway, as the plant is growing vigorously. > The constant evaporation causes strong salt build up on the leca decreasing their effectiveness over time. True, but it will never be as bad as plastic crate's wicking/evaporative abilities, right? :-) By the way, I am sure you get this, Doug, but making sure everybody else reading understands - salt build-up is very bad in media because of fertilizer burn, but here we are talking about something happening outside the pot, so none of that applies (apart from the reduced wicking capacity Doug mentioned)....See MoreHoya Trellis
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17 years agolanglin
17 years agoMarcy and earline ,I like to share my discoveries; I have so many things that still need to be solved. Hope all can use the idea and share an idea with me sometime.
Yes Diane, I know the conventional wisdom is to keep hoya root bound and mistreated to cause blooms and I'm sure that has worked for people but it doesn't fit in at our house, we are retired and we travel so each planting must be able to survive for several weeks on its own which is why we chose the self watering larger pots and good, well draining potting soil. We ask all our plants to live in the same conditions ( except African Violets) and we water twice a month and fertilize once a month, winter and summer so they are accustomed to being without us.
When we first bought a hoya fifteen years ago, we didn't know they bloomed and bought the Krimson Queen for the foliage and we have managed to expand to now have over forty different types of hoya all with dramatically different leaves and when they bloom, thatÂs just a bonus. They are mostly in 9 inch self watering pots and so far it has worked well for us and thatÂs probably more because of where we live and the fantastic southern exposure sunroom we have rather than the care but we never lose plants and they grow beautiful foliage. I know hoya grow without much soil in the wild but as you can see from these photos, if you give them good rich soil and 15-30-15 fertilizer, they can grow luxurious foliage (all three were cuttings and are in 9 inch self-watering pots).
Now, having said all this IÂll probably lose all my hoya. :)-Leon
canttype
17 years agomichellescroggin
17 years agoearline_pa zone 6 Pa.
17 years agoLeon thank you again for this idea.
My carnosa got a hair cut (about 10 foot of vine chopped off) new soil, a bath, and a new trellis ;)She would have been really happy if she could have stayed outdoors, but unfortunately we are expecting frost tonight :( and the vine had enough shocks today.
I had to put two sections together to extend it to about 52"
but it worked like a charm.I also put a jasmine vine that had a rotting wooden trellis on your fence section trellis
langlin
17 years agomairzy_dotes
17 years agolanglin
17 years agoMarcy .. No they do not have wicks and we have not found that they need wicks.
We water on the first and 15th of each month and water from the top until it runs thru to the base. As you can see the soil fills the cavities down below the water level but not "in the water" so no root rot. The water returns by osmosis through the two holes in the bottom of the cavities.
We have found that with plants that use more water the basin will be dry after two weeks and plants that use less will still have some water, a great way to determine the individual plants need for water.
Hope this is understandable???
-Leon
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16 years agoHere's the one planted on the small trellis (lacunosa) along with the new one (NOID) just planted on the large trellis. Thanks Leon.
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16 years agoThe other pic was not in focus so I took another one.
It's better but not the best. I hope this helps some.Laura
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16 years agoI just repoted my hoya and tried to undo it from the hoop thats its on is there any way of doing it with out hurting the plant when I got it it had seen better days all dried up and a mess( lowes trash bin) now it looks great and happy
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