Rats and veggie garden-- help!
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Comments (8)Glad to try to help! I start at least 1 new bed somewhere every year. "If I use cardboard and whatever OM I can come up with, and then the finely shredded wood chips (can that be bought?)." Yes, finely shredded mulch that isn't painted a designer color (takes longer to decompose, and you probably don't want to 'eat' decomposed paint or dyes) shouldn't be hard to find. "Will I be able to plant next spring??" Yes, I always do. A layer of something moist and green directly on top of the cardboard (like grass from mower bag, small yard trimmings, produce scraps from kitchen) will give the green/brown (the paper/cardboard) balance needed for speedier decomposition. Put under the mulch, you'll never know it's there, should be 'dirt' by spring, at least in appearance and texture, but you'll know it's compost/humus. Put tons of leaves on top when you get them in the fall. I>"I find it hard to imagine all of that would decompose so quickly. If so, would I add soil on top before planting?" This depends on the weather, climate, and mix of stuff you put there, but a reasonable expectation. "And before laying down the cardboard or papers, I'd want to cut it all down as much as I can?" Yes, this will help the smothering stuff be best able to contour to the soil surface, blocking the air and light and space needed for stuff to grow under there. "Oh, one last question - when would u start the lasagna layers? ASAP? " I would, but it's up to you. The longer it has, the more decomposition possible. "Was gonna let my sad tomato plants go to see if I could get any goodies from them..." If you think you can work around them, they shouldn't mind, probably like it. Maybe pull stuff around the base, then smother nearby, filling in those holes later when the toms are finished? Up to you, but likely do-able. "What kind of OM can I buy at a store? " Mulch and compost, but if you start looking around you'll probably find stuff. As long as you mow before you see seeds on the grass, there will be few seeds in the grass, which won't be able to grow through all of the stuff on top anyway. As you stir things up planting and harvesting, some seeds may end up on the surface and sprout, but once you gain control, it's easy to pull unwanted sprouts when you see them. I've never caused an infestation of unwanted grass doing this. After you've gotten started, you can add kitchen scraps as you get them. Dig a little hole (but not deep enough to pierce the cardboard until next spring) for them, cover back up. Nobody but you will know you're "sheet composting." The more stuff like that you can add (greens as opposed to browns like the cardboard and mulch,) the quicker it will all decompose. Green + brown = fast compost. Green alone or brown alone = very slow decomposition, less desirable end-product. I usually proofread, but it's lunch time, hope......See MoreNew to gardening! Need help with veggie and herb garden
Comments (3)Dynamic lifter is a good fertilizer but before you do anything you need to see what the soil is like. Fertilizer won't improve soil and is a waste of money if your plants are struggling in soil that's too light or too heavy, or full of roots from competing trees. I would salvage what I could from those gardens - perennials herbs etc, weed out the rest (saving the sunflower seeds for the birds :-) ) and dig it over. What you need is good soil to grow veggies. Too sandy will need compost added to bulk it up and reduce water loss. Too old and heavy may just need breaking up, watering, compost and working over. You may even need to bring in some better soil to work into what you've got. So, I'd go for compost and soil improvement first. That might also involve adding some organic fertilizers. If you are on a budget, you should also start setting up your own compost area so you can recycle your "good" kitchen scraps and "good" weeds. I notice a number of skinny things on top of the soil that I would normally call "catkins" and suspect come from a pine tree or similar - do you have any overhanging trees like that?...See MoreNew Gardener- Help Me Plan My Veggie Layout and general questions
Comments (3)Well the root crops would best benefit from the deep bed. For the rest it doesn't really matter. Your bigger issue is going to be the different nutrient and water needs of the different vegetables. Put the broccoli, cauliflower, and brussels sprouts together but not near the beans or peas (they can go together). Put the lettuce by the cukes and keep all the squash plants together. I guess since you already have the plants you might as well plant them. They will either survive or they won't. You may have to replace them then but you may discover that you don't have room for everything on your list anyway so if something dies off the other plants will benefit from that space.. But you will have learned some valuable lessons in the mean time - Different plants have different needs. Not everything can be or should be planted all at the same time. And what looks like plenty of room now will look like an over-grown jungle in 2 months. :-) I would transplant the tomatoes into larger pots - no, they can't remain as is - and hold them back for a couple of weeks. But the cukes and zucchini and squash won't survive a double transplanting (into a larger pot and then into the garden) so all you can do is plant them and hope for the best. Next year think about direct seeding them at the proper time rather than using transplants. Same goes for beans. And this winter take the time to learn about the various correct planting dates for each vegetable for your location and the soil temps needed by various vegetables for transplanting. Do that before you invest in all the plants, ok? You might also want to learn about pre-warming garden soil methods so you can plant warm summer crops a bit earlier next year. Too late to do that this year as it takes several weeks. Dave...See MoreRaised veggie garden design options - help a noob !
Comments (6)Hubby is doing a couple boxes similar to yours. Our soil is the opposite of clay. Decomposed Granite that gophers LOVE! He is using redwood boards for the sides and some kind of plastic clamps to put the corners together. He laid down hardware cloth so the gophers can't come up underneath, but if the roots go into the soil below, gophers may have a feast. He's also putting posts around the edges to string chicken wire around to keep out rats, rabbits, etc. THEN we'll put bird netting over that. I'm telling you, it's WAR on our property! 1.5 acres right next to the wilderness. Critters abound....See More- 15 years ago
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