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Will the real montana 'Chodai Ginyo' please stand up?

13 years ago

Okay, what is the real Chodai Ginyo and does anyone have pics to post? There aren't any pics of it on the Hosta Library...under montana Chodai Ginyo, or just Chodai Ginyo.

The Hostapedia (page 187) gives this description under the entry titled 'Chodai Ginyo':

origin: H. montana background

history: NR; long-established cultivar from Japan

description: ...bluish green leaves become dark green by midsummer...

status: rare; limited availability

comments: The specimen of 'Chodai Ginyo' in Peter Ruh's collection was labeled "H. sieboldiana 'Chodai Ginyo', but it certainly is more closely related to H. montana than H. sieboldiana.

On a different note, Zilis also has an entry for Hosta 'Chodai Ginba'...a plant registered by Peter Ruh in 2003, apparently related to Hosta nigrescens.

If that isn't confusing enough, check out the entry on page 59 of The New Encyclopedia of Hostas by Grenfell and Shadrack. Under the title Hosta 'Chodai Ginba', it says:

Origin: Unknown other than from Japan. Also known as 'Chodai Gihyo'.

So, is 'Chodai Gihyo' different than 'Chodai Ginyo'? And is it different than 'Chodai Ginba' as Zilis says in The Hostapedia, or is it the same as 'Chodai Ginba' as Grenfell says???

Maybe Warren P. or W. G. Schmid could chime in and straighten us out...

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ademink

5 years ago

Ok...7 years later. Lol

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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
13 years ago
per the link:

'Cho' means long, 'Dai' means large & 'Ginba' means silver leaf. About "Chodai Ginyo", 'Chodai' means long-large, 'Ginyo' means Silver leaf, too. So 'Ginba' equal 'Ginyo' [TN].

i will leave it to you to figure out that logic.. lol ...

pix in the library without montana in front of the name... meaning.. look under C

best i can do

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: my hosta dB
ademink
13 years ago
I have several chodai ginyo. grew them from TCs and they are STUNNING. wow. i am in love! will get you a pic when they are done leafing out. and yes, montana for sure.
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
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what the hell was i talking about 7.5 years ago ... lol ... ken
ConnieMay ON Z6a
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Better late than never!
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hahaha you always make me laugh, ken! hey...random but is your tricolor beech still going strong?
librazen
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last modified: 5 years ago
glad to see I am not alone in looking for info on this plant
librazen
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will you upload this to hosta library please... it could use another photo.
ademink
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I will send it to them! I will get better pics tomorrow. :)
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I'm back at this again. So these do seem to be more Montana (zero pods on scapes) but then I have another one I happened upon (it was an unknown) that looks almost the same but deeper veins and loaded w/ pods. Could that be Ginba???
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Hahaha——-I am totally lost on this one! Beautiful pics and yes get to the library.

Ken......as always you explain everything perfectly!

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