cow manure vs horse

tommyplyer

16 years ago

I know it sounds dumb but I have horse's all around me not cattel is the horse manure as good as cow

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tropicalfreak
16 years ago
Yes it is. I grew up on a farm in NC. We used both for our gardens. Would spread it on and then plow in.

When I cleaned out the stalls everyday I had to throw it on the pile.

We gave some away. Sold some. My Grandmother would use it in her flower beds,

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wanda662
16 years ago
I've had a few horses and I can say it is good stuff! You just have to remember fresh has to sit awhile so it doesn't burn your plants! I believe Cow Manure isn't as "hot" because of their digestive track.
Pile it high and take from the bottom after a few months.
You can also make a tea, in a five gallon bucket put a shovel full and fill with water. Let it sit for a week.
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Last year was my first year gardening in raised beds. I filled the beds with a mixture of native soil (clay), compost (till it ran out), and horse stall sweepings from a friend's barns. There was quite alot of wood shavings in it. I did not have alot of trouble with weeds, though I think this had been piled up for "awhile". However, I believe the wood shavings tied up the nitrogen in the soil for that first season. I finally resorted to Miracle Grow to get a crop. By this year, it was all nicely broken down and I had a perfectly wonderful garden. Through a soil test, I learned that my soil is low in nitrogen to begin with, so maybe the shavings were less of a factor than I originally believed. At any rate, I would use it again for the way it conditioned my horribly sticky, tight clay soil. By spring it was positively loamy, with a minimal number of clods in it. I think what I learned is that when you're using manures, time is your best friend.
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New to this forum. Enjoying all the new stuff I'm learning. Feeding Bambis alfalfa will get verrry expensive. I have both cows and horses and can't tell any difference in how hot it is or which one has more weeds, although my grandfather always swore horse manure was too hot. You can use green manure, but don't pile it up thick on anything or it will burn (it starts cooking). You can mix green in with your native soil, and it will be fine. I planted larkspur and delphenium directly into green manure and they were gorgeous and healthy. I used to plant my annuals with a scoop of composted manure and got many, many weeds immediately around the plant. I blamed the manure and started planting them with a spoonful of Osmacote. I still have lots of weeds. I realize now it was the combination of turning over the weed seeds to sunlight when I planted along with the added nutrients. It doesn't matter whether it's manure or a commercial fetilizer. I'm going back to the manure as it's free. My conclusion: Weed seeds are everywhere and when you turn them over to the sunlight and give them a boost with manure or commercial fertilizers, they go nuts.
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We shovel the horse manure ourselves, so we see what's growing around the pile and avoid anything near chickweed for example. We have a good idea of what the horses eat. People with horses around here are too hardscrabble to give their animals a lot of drugs or put chemicals on their grass/fields. So it's a good idea to consider your source. The Nitrogen (dry weight) of horse and cattle manure is comparable but that's the dry weight. Cow manure tends to be wet and sloppy. All in all I'd sooner horse manure - it's hotter, more concentrated. We always compost it first, which organic standards recommend (require?) anyway. We give the compost time for any seeds to germinate and rot so we don't obsess about reaching any particular temperature.
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When I did, in my ignorance, add animal manures to the garden beds without first composting those manures, I did see an increase in "weeds" and it made no difference if it was manure from dairy cows, horses, pigs, goats, sheep, llamas or alpacas, unless it was dehydrated manure. It seems the heat used to dry that manure was enough to kill any "weed" seeds. Since the easiest method to keep these "weed" seeds out of the garden is to compost the manure first it simply makes sense to do that, along with all the other very good reasons to compost manure before applying it to your garden soil.
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annafl
16 years ago
I love aged horse manure. If you use it for veggies, make sure it's fully composted, tho.

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tomkaren
16 years ago
If you make the manure tea be aware that mosquitoes will breed there too.
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countrynest
16 years ago
The cow digestive system breaks up the seeds where the horse manure will give you the seeds ready to sprout and then you have weeds.
We have a horse and that is what I use to fertilize and in my compost.
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tommyplyer
Original Author
16 years ago
thanks and what about coffee grounds! is the flavered harmfull to the plants or will it help repell bugs?
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buttterflyy
16 years ago
I took notes from this forum last year and someone mentioned that coffee grounds help to repel nematodes...
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