Seedlings Blooming in my Garden

duke_of_hebron

16 years ago

Here are a few of my H. 'True Grit' X H. 'Chicago Apache' seedlings as they bloomed recently.

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okbt
16 years ago
Isn't the diversity amazing? They all look good. Thanks for sharing them.

Betsy
phaltyme21
16 years ago
Those are amazing. That's going to be tricky to keep track of which is which, isn't it.?

Kay
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Melissa, you are right. I am afraid to even think about tossing 'bad' seedlings. But I will have to. There is no way I can add 60 more roses to my garden. Also, I would like to continue growing roses from seeds in the future. I was thinking about plant swap party that we will have in May (here in Amelia, VA). Hopefully there some of them would find good homes. Otherwise, I don't know... Robert, yes I grow mine under fluorescent lights (regular shop lights, nothing fancy). I wish I could have a greenhouse, too!!! This is my setting (this is in our covered 'breezeway' - it stays rather cool there. The picture was taken a while ago)
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Thank you all for the words of encouragement! I needed this reward after all the trouble with the bulb fly. This past fall I took every bulb I have (this is my original eight purchased bulbs and hundreds of seedlings) and washed the soil off completely. I separated each bulb so they were all singles and inspected them and soaked them in huge buckets of water with bleach to try to kill any bulb flies that might have gotten in during the summer outside. This was backbreaking work and took the whole day. I repotted every one of them and still found the maggots in some containers during the winter and an adult NBF on the windowsill in January. I mean I looked carefully at each bulb with the roots completely cleaned and didn't see anything that looked like a hole. Either the larva are microscopically small (and not killed by a soak in bleach water) or it was in the bags of potting soil I re-potted them with. I've read about the hot water treatment, but it's just not feasible for this many bulbs. I may never take them outside again. It's just too much work going through all that plus the lugging all those pots in and out. Anyway - thanks again and I'll post the next ones that bloom in the next few weeks. Jackie
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Like Hans I have several window boxes full of seedlings. The window boxes are heavy and hard for me to transport in and out in the summer and winter. It's so difficult to separate the bulbs when the roots all grow together as well. That's why after the nightmare of separating this group, I put them in the individual drink cups. It's worked very well and makes it so much easier if I want to pull one out for any reason. As a side note, I do put my bulbs outside in the open sun/wind/rain. I haven't had any problems with rot or mites (over ten years now), but I have had the narcissus bulb fly wreak havoc, and I find that they attack the open soil of the window boxes and have not bothered the bulbs that are in the drink cups. I think they like all that loose open soil to burrow into. Just FYI.
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Chris, my energy is shot to pieces. The seedlings are so exciting though that I can't give them up. I am doing a major downsize this year.. Debra,The appliqued eye is from Catcher In The Eye X ultraviolet Mood. I have so many out of that cross. I found a really nice one in the garden yesterday that was blooming for the first time. The plant is puny but I really love it's face. I will be posting it later. Thanx for your kind words.. Val, this is a first year for the dark eyed one and the seedling X Heav Curls but the watermarked , hot pink is about 4 years old. I have another very similiar seedling that is coral watermarked... Ah shucks Rita.. it's a favorite here too!! Lin, they said they are to young to travel but maybe when they are a little older.. The cream eyed seedling's garden name is Emma for one of my Great Grandaughters . Thank you deangreen. i have several from that cross that is pretty nice.. Brittie, they seem to the choice of most.. Thank you all for your patience!! Ellie
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luvtosharedivs
16 years ago
Gee wilikers!
I had to back twice to view them all to pick my favorite, and I vote for #16 & #22. With all those beauties, how does a hybridizer cull most of what is crossed, after all that hard work, keeping records, let alone waiting for 2-3 years just to see a first bloom?!

Thanks for sharing!

Julie
duke_of_hebron
Original Author
16 years ago
If you want to see more of my hybridyzing efforts, click here.
I map my seedling beds so i can tell which is which. There is a lot of nice genes in this cross and I'm going to continue making this cross. So far, three have been good enough to consider registering, and I'm sure I'll be able to get even nicer combinations in the future.
petalpatsy
16 years ago
Holy Cow! I don't know what impresses me more, the daylilies or the website! You really do have some beauties, and it's tremendous to see all the seedlings.
laurelin
16 years ago
It's fascinating to see the wide results from a single cross. Out of that set of photos, I like #1 and #17, but I don't know what you're looking for in your breeding program. The ones I like best might be ones you will cull. Now I REALLY can't wait for my seedlings to bloom next year.

Laurel
jean_ar
16 years ago
wow,I like all of them.They all gorgeous.

Jean
farmerbell
16 years ago
Thank you so much for posting these gorgeous pictures. I have about 135 seedlings growing that I started this year - 15 from one cross. I had wondered why I planted all 15 since I was sure they would all be similar. Now, I know that they can vary greatly. Again I thank you for this post. I have looked at the pictures 3 times and marvel at the diversity. Can't wait for mine to bloom!

Ann
tweetypye
16 years ago
I enjoyed your website and I have a question for you. Are all the blooms above, products of a direct cross between Chicago Apache and the same seedling or different seedlings? Also, on your website, are all the blooms under the listing of Strawberry Candy X All American Eagle direct crosses between those two dl's or seedlings crossed with seedlings? I've never seen so many diverse blooms from the same two dl's.It's truly amazing!
Thanks for sharing.
Jan
katlynn719
16 years ago
Very interesting website. I admired all your hard work. It will be nice to browse through it this coming winter!
Kathy
duke_of_hebron
Original Author
16 years ago
Tweetypye,

Allof the seedlings listed under H. 'True Grit' X H. 'Chicago Apache' are direct cross between the two cultivars down to the point where the headings change as I show the back crosses to the parents. Again, all of them are the same cross until the heading changes.
Same for the H. 'Strawberry Candy' X H. 'All American Eagle'

Yes, there is an immense diversity in any cross between two tetraploids. I calculated at one time that there are probably more possible combinations in the cross than all dalilies now in existance (i.e., > 10^12 possible combinations) If you like the results of an initial cross, just keep doing until you get one with all of the best features from both parents (or even new ones).

I plan do do even more of these crosses for next year.
duke_of_hebron
Original Author
16 years ago
Here's an Excel spreadsheet showing calculations of the number of crosses needed to get every combination of 1 to 20 features using mandellian multi-hybrid calculations. The top calculations assume incomplete dominance and the bottom calculations assume complete dominance.

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