Mary, you can keep adding to your original post - get all your questions answered in one place. Your pie pans might be a little shallow, containers that will hold min 3" soil depth work best for most.

When RRD first came into this area, I sort of decided that the single adjective "Aberrant" covered how odd it was. And that simply means that it looks different (really different) from the other growth on that same rose or on the same cultivar in other parts of your (and others) gardens. Then I had aberrant growth show up on what were left of roots of a multiflora in the middle of a drought. There was NO reason for all of the growth. And there was a lot of growth, but that rose had had no rain for two months and there were cracks in the earth around the stem with the EXCESSIVE AND UNEXPECTED. And that way I got two more adjectives to describe the disease. Our best way to catch RRD is to know what's normal. The reddish growth is normal on teas in the fall and spring. But you'll get a feeling for how long it stays red and when it should start to turn green. (Take a look at the American Pillar linked below. The color stood out on it because it didn't look like the same new growth on any other cane on a really big rose.) Finally, when I've decided it's aberrant growth, I look for three different kinds of aberrant growth. Here is a link that might be useful: American Pillar's RRD (pix at bottom)

Faye, Be happy to share the names of the grasses I have in my garden. I love grasses and think everyone should enjoy them. This grass is called 'Central Park'. I'm surprised I don't have a picture of it with its plumes because they are beautiful. I'll have to make sure to take some this year. It's 4 years old this month and has never been divided. I cut all my grasses back in Feb or March to as low as I can get them. I have 2 of these. This is 'Madien Hair Grass'. I really like how it has a fountain like drape to it. The plumes on this one are also wonderful. It is crowding a small 'Red Hot Poker' plant to the right of it which I will have to move after it blooms next month. The 2 little patches of what look like a varigated grass just behind the coleus is not a grass but 'Society Garlic'. This grass is also 4 years old this month. I have 3 of these. The lighter grass in this picture is called 'Morning Light'. Its between the sedum and my other Central Park. I have one on either side of the Central Park, however, the one on the right (you can barely see it) isn't doing very well this year, sigh. I've had this grass for 3 years and it has never sent up plumes. I read that they need a prolonged period of very hot weather to bloom. Sure thought my weather qualified for that but guess not. And finally, a picture of my 'Dwarf Fountain Grass'. I was told when I bought this that it was marginally hardy in my area but this is the 3rd year I've had it and its doing very well. I've been very happy that it is truly a dwarf and has maintaned a nice small size. This picture is from 2005. I also have varigated 'Sweet Flag' and golden variegated 'Hakone' but don't have any decent pictures of them. Check out the link below for some good information about grasses. Hope this has helped you to decide which grasses to incorporate into your garden. Vikki Here is a link that might be useful: Paul James article on grasses

Thank you kay and Nancy., well, now I am not expecting seeds from this,so if I do get seeds and they turn out they are good one and grow me a new daylily, I will be very surprised.Hope it works,anyway.maybe I be beginers luck? jean