What would you plant considering my data?

14 years ago

OK, I will give you all meteorological and pedological data about my area, and you give your advices what conifer is most suitable for here.

I had already discussion about that on local forum, but I'm interested in worldwide comments.

So, here it is.

Planet Earth, Europe, Croatia, Vinkovci

latitude: 45Â° 17' 29.6592"

lingitude: 18Â° 48' 14.508"

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&t=h&vps=1&jsv=173b&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=23.875,57.630033&ie=UTF8&hl=en&geocode=FREWswIdmOEeAQ&split=0

Koeppen classification CfwbÂxÂ

average annual temperature 11.2Â°C

absolute minimum -30.5Â°C

absolute maximum 39.0Â°C

average rainfall 638.9 mm

average wind direction NW 30.3%, SE 29.4%, SW 22.6% i NE 14.5%

average number of days with strong wind ( Beaufort scale )

â¥ 6 B - 11.2 days, â¥ 8 B - 1.1 days

average number of days with fog - 29.3 days

average number of days with snow on ground â¥ 0.1 cm - 30.8 days

winter cloudiness 6.3 - 7.4

summer cloudiness 3.6 - 5.1

average number of days with Tmin 0.0Â°C - 83.0 days

longest period with snow on ground â¥ 0.1 cm - 160 days

shortest period with snow on ground â¥ 0.1 cm - 1 day

frost is recorded in every month except August

Type of soil is mostly clay with loess.

As you see, climate is not very good, considering rainfall, and it is practically semi-arid climate, with cold winters, and hot summers.

If you ask me, not very good climate for most conifers.

Waiting for you answers.

Regards, Anton

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pineresin
14 years ago
Other useful information: altitude 88 metres. Soil pH would also be useful to know.

Some that should succeed include:
Pinus nigra, Pinus heldreichii, Pinus virginiana, Pinus pungens, Pinus rigida, Pinus ponderosa (northern interior origins), Pinus peuce, Pinus strobus, Pinus reflexa, Pinus edulis, Pinus monophylla, Pinus bungeana, Picea abies, Picea pungens, Picea meyeri, Larix decidua, Larix kaempferi, Abies cephalonica, Abies concolor, Metasequoia glyptostroboides, Taxodium distichum, Chamaecyparis pisifera, Juniperus communis, Juniperus virginiana, Juniperus chinensis, Platycladus orientalis.

Resin
midtn
14 years ago
Very interesting! I've been picking at Resin's brain (and others) for years now. This is much more efficient.
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14 years ago
Anton, I am confused by your climatological data. You list your zone as 7b yet your minimum is listed as -23 F.. I do realize that hardiness zones are only an approximate measure and are based on average annual minimal temps (which is not provided in your data). You also say that frost has been recorded every month of the year (except August). That sounds MUCH colder than zone 7b as I know them. Are European hardiness zones equivalent to those used in the Eastern USA?
taksodij
Original Author
14 years ago
Yeah, sorry about altitude and pH I forgot them in all that data.
So, 85 m is altitude, and pH...Well, I don't know exact on micro location, but I will tell you that here is the biggest forest in the world of Quercus robur, it grows here very prosperously ( this area is famous about that oak ), and he likes slightly acidic ground, so it is probably below pH 5.5

njoasis, as I know, USDA zones are based on average minimum temperature, not absolute minimum, and since that for Vinkovci is -12.2Â°C, I put them in 7b.
Considering frost, it is you can say common in April, every couple of years in May, and in 1987. believe it or not, it was recorded minimum temperature of 0.0Â°C in July.That probably happens one time in 50-100 years, so I'm not worried about it, but I mentioned that data, since I have it.
Frost is normal from November till March, and every couple of years from October till April or May.In September is also very, very rare.
I hope I haven't confused you.We don't have that harsh climate, as it may seems, USA has far, far more harder winters then we do, mostly thanks to cold air from Canada, and type of air masses we don't have here ( OK, we have from Russia and Arctic, but not in the way you do - you have really sudden and cold masses of air with blizzards and low temperature, something like that here is rare, and much more milder and slower then in USA ).

Resin, from experience, Picea abies can grow here, and indeed it is very, very common, but it haven't got good habitus, which differs very much from those spruces in hilly areas, with more rainfall.They don't look good, if you ask me, they are healthy, but they branches are all kinda pendulous, not towards the sky like in hilly or mountainous area.
Pinus strobus also had some issues in this area, mainly beacuse of relatively dry climate and Cronartium ribicola, and he also likes humid climate more.
You said Metasequoia glyptostroboides, Taxodium distichum - I know that, especially Taxodium, can grow in drier climate, but are you sure in this conditions with 639 mm of rain and dry winds, do you have any example from USA?Why I ask, because our climate, is tricky if you ask me, ironically my area ( Slavonija ) is one of the richest agricultural areas in Europe.
I will tell you what I added in my local forum on list:

Abies nordmandianna
Cedrus atlantica
Cedrus deodara
Ginko biloba ( I know it is not conifer )
Larix decidua
Picea pungens
Pinus nigra
Pinus silvestris
Pinus mugo
Pinus wallichiana
Taxus baccata

Glad to here more of your opinions, thanks guys, and regards, Anton.

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