In search of seeds for either of these coleus. My list is not updated, so if you have these seeds, please let me know and I'll look at your list and see what we can work out. Thanks Angela

Interesting information. The "Sunrise" that I have does tend to fade out to a pale-yellow rather fast, unfortunately. On the plus side, it has grown very vigorously and hasn't had much in the way of quilled petals. It did have a few deformed petals (quills or missing most petals) after the shock of the late frosts in April, 2007, but that lousy weather produced a similar effect upon my "Magnus" coneflower. Other than the first few flowers on both plants in 2007, everything has been normal for me. It is worth mentioning that I bought my plants from a local nursery, not a big-box store, which may explain the quality of the tissue culture. Good luck, and thanks for all the info about this problem.

Pat - I saw someone's "Harvest Moon" recently and it looked great last year. This year the petals are either quilled or have petals missing, etc. The plant is half as tall as it was the first year. "Sunrise" starts out a real light yellow, but fades to a dirty white color. There isn't one that exactly matches that color yet, but like I said...it doesn't keep that color long at all. There is a new one at Terra Nova called "Maui Sunshine." It might be a good one to try. It starts out a brighter yellow, but when the bloom fades, it would probably get close to that light yellow color. Here is a link that might be useful: Maui Sunshine

I have one Echinacea Mango Meadowbright wintersown 2 year old- that is a mellow yellow color- and SEVERAL that are a light pink with different petals- some longer and thinner- some short and stocky- and ONE that decided to spoon it's pale lavender petals!! Now that is almost as grand as a mellow yellow to my eyes! I will always try to grow F1 Hybrids in hopes of something wonderful- even knowing there is little chance of having children similar to the parents- I had a whole slew of Aquilegia 'Origami Red' seedlings that bloomed this year- and one out of the hundred resembled 'Origami Red'- and another resembled 'Origami White' - ALL of the others were pink and shaped like a Beidermeyer columbine- go figure- I also had several hundred heuchera 'Midnight Velvet' seedlings- and maybe 8 looked similar to the momma plant- the rest were HUGELY diverse in appearence. It makes me wonder if the farther the plant is bread from the original species- the more diverse the offspring will be..... Better minds than mine may have that answer. I do know that any of these open pollenated plants- no matter how close they resemble the parent plant can not be rightfully called the parents name. A gardener friend told me all of these should sport a small x in front of their names to show that it is a seed grown plant of the named species. So my mellow yellow Echinecea will be called x-Mango Meadowbright- same with the Columbine, x-Origami Red. Now- the real fun will be to grow these on- and see if the seedlings will be further diverse- or will be more stable and produce a greater percentage of similar offspring..... Oh- growing from seed is sooo fun! Julie