But Silica, oh but you do know me and have been around here long enough to know what I have done, said, and what my feelings are about CHC, let alone all the time I spend here.:-( We have met before on many occasions and you read here alot too, enough to see who I am for I do know you;-) ...................................................... Posted by silica (My Page) on Thu, Sep 9, 10 at 11:24 Last Spring I put several of my trees into the 4-1 CHC peat mix. The growth on these trees was absolutely fantastic, far surpassed my other citrus. Actually unbelieveable. Also it is very assureing that a citrus tree growing in a 4-1 CHC mix cannot be damaged from over watering. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RE: Updated trees from Coconut Husk Chips to the 5.1.1 mix. Pictu clip this post email this post what is this? see most clipped and recent clippings Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 9, 10 at 12:21 That is the thing Silica.. Not that I am not happy for you, in fact proud of you.. But I have asked so many times for help to be able to grow them as you say you did, and there is rarely anyone to help! Where are the pictures of the trees, the close up shots of the CHC mix, the instructions, the fertilizer regimend you use, the step by step instructions, the suppliers, the evidence,the support...ect? Are we at the wrong forum for all the CHC experts and the pictures? Are you able to answer questions about nutritional defficiencies and how to correct them? How many did you loose over the years figuring the stuff out? Did you wash it? How do you keep the salts out? How do you keep the pH perfect? There might be many here that are still interested at giving it a try.. My plants would of died in that stuff by the time anyone could tell me what to do.. It is nice to know ...................................... I guess sometime forget. We have had many past conversations and at times nice, and at time have not agrred on certain things. I think you missed my whole point about thinking about giving it a try and being pushed back even further because people that have used CHC run from healthy debate and still have yet to prove the science behind it and support the evidence so that ones like me can be convinced or have a reason to use them once again or for the first time. I am not upset at what was said toward Al, no not at all, in fact he can defend himself, although I must admit I was a bit perturbed because I was not the only one that understood it the way I saw it, but I am dissapointed in the way the conversations end, like what you did, in which it is always the ones that use bark that continue to prove the superiority of it, and the ones that use CHC chips that leave. It sounds fishy to me, that's all. If you don't care what I use, then why are you here trying to convince us, me, others that CHC works better and advantages of it over bark? I know that people like Al care about what I use, and that is why I continue to follow those that do have a concern for my success and for what is really best for my trees. Not harm intended, no hard feelings, for as I said, I also respect you in your crusade to purswade others that CHC is the way to go, and I accept any misunderstandings. Have a great weekend nad thanks for your time. Thank you Jodi and thank you for your well said post too! Mike;-)

Well, first off, your fertilizing regime needs to be changed. Not nearly even close enough fertilizer for nitrogen-hungry citrus. You need to switch to a granular or liquid fertilizer especially formulated for citrus, and then fertilize every other month. I would go to Armstrong's and talk to them about the best fertilizer for your citrus. There are some great options there. You can see if they have Gro Power Citrus & Avocado Food, which is an excellent product. Also, be sure your potting mix is well draining. Check down 18" or so, to make sure water is not pooling at the bottom of your pot. Your soil looks awfully dense, so don't just think that checking a few inches down is sufficient. If the bottom of the pot is really wet, your citrus roots will eventually suffocate and rot. Next, make sure your tree is getting plenty of sunshine. It appears that your tree is in the shade in your photo. Citrus can tolerate some shade, but really need at least 6 hours of full sun to flower and fruit. Patty S.

Wow that is a coincidence- hello there! It's always amazing how small a world it is. Well it is also a dream of mine to at least winter in CA or somewhere where I can grow my trees in ground. Seeing your nagami inspires me as I have one as well, in a pot of course, but it is nowhere near as mature as yours. Oddly enough though mine appears more treelike than yours, it's about 3 feet tall now but still very stick-like. It gives me hope for what will come in the next few years. Thank you!

Okay... I will be patient and see what happens as spring arrives and I get to put it back outside. Just can't figure out what went wrong. I have numerous other indoor citrus (key lime, eureka lemon, and several other nagami kumquats from seed) which have all done well. Same light conditions, humidity, watering regimen, potting soil, etc. This grafted nagami kumquat is the only one that seems to be really struggling.