Not all conifers are created equal. I have a few that it would never work on. Pinus reflexa, they call it reflexa for a reason, I can literally tie the branches in a knot if I wanted to & no way would it support a clem. I have a Skyrocket Juniper I would never plant one on either because the branches are long & growing completely upright & it would be a splayed out fool if I tried growing a clem up it & those are 7' x 2.5'. I would still contemplate putting a type 2 on a conifer unless you treat it as a 3.

Ordered 4.....3 for me and 1 for DD....and I have 8 on my deck waiting to be planted! And I am searching for space....oh, dear. Brushwood was out of stock on most of my wish list which is probably a good thing! Marlene

gardengal, My clematis keep growing and blooming until the first hard frost/freeze. For my area, that can be any time between the end of September to about the middle of October, but it happens earlier or later some years. By that time, the night temps are already low, the soil gets too cold, so the roots don't do much growing after that. I know because I planted 4 clematis in fall one year (to hold them over until spring) then dug them up in spring as soon as the ground thawed. The roots showed little to no new growth. It has been suggested that our fall season begins in the middle of August, which I can believe because the maple leaves are already starting to turn color, some years it's early August. The problem is, at that time of year, the ground is usually bone dry because most years it rarely rains in July and August. Plus it can still be hot during the day throughout August. By the time the day temps cool, the nights are already getting colder. The opportune window to transplant sometimes is so short you miss it. Just a little anecdotal info... the 2 clematis I moved from a holding area into their new spots a couple of weeks ago were cut back, and started growing almost right away; no typical lag. One has buds, the other is growing like crazy. Another.... I moved 3 group 2's last spring that weren't doing well in their location. I figured if they didn't do better this year, I'd get rid of them. All 3 are growing like crazy. What I'm trying to say is that zone 4 is so different than zone 8. The original poster needs to find out what works in her location. I know, for example, the best time to move evergreens in our area is in fall and until the ground freezes. All the landscaper tuck away the deciduous shrubs and perennials to make room for the evergreens. It's not just me and msgal from Minnesota, it's our nursery owners and landscapers.

Hi guys! I'm here again. Already been to a Scottish Highlands celebration---VERY FUN! and an airshow---big stuff here---very talented pilots! "Big" earthquake wasn't anywhere around here, but there are frequent earthquakes in this area. The REAL threat is the mosquitoes! YIIIIII! I bought HUGE citronella candles, DEET spray, and citronella plants---and STILL they come! Combatting the bugs is a joke and constant hobby here. I was potting some plants for my porch yesterday and thought I was going CRAZY--getting bitten and buzzed out there! I will take my large candles with me next time! The greenhouses here are very casual and freely run. The plants are mondo sized and CHEAP! Nearly everything is under 10 bucks. It's downright dangerous for me! lol. QOD: the 4th: We're headed out to a small fishing village that has a gigantic celebration on the 4th. It's a 5 hour drive and then a ferry ride, but I'm told it's worth it, so off we go! Then coming back to a family casual dinner with all Americano food probably--kosher dogs, salad, and whatever else people bring. Tikanas~ I am STRICT about keeping a food diary and try to eat healthy choices; lots of fiber and veggies and VARIETY! I don't eat a huge amount of protein-usually only for dinner-and an occasional egg for brekky. I was weighing in every day at home and then once a week at Weight Watchers, but since I arrived here for the summer, I have not weighed. I probably will cave and buy a house scale and there's a WW place nearby, so I will start weighing in again. I use the scale and book from WW to keep myself accountable to someone! I have lost a large amount of weight since October- about 25 pounds or so. It is a SLOW weight loss (about 2 or 3 ponuds a month), but it's finally staying off and no big fluxuations any more, so I'm finding this to be the way for me to go. Well, we are having a guy DH met over for dinner tonight. He's Korean and homesick, so I am making Korean BBQ, rice, and cabage salad with sesame oil and chili oil. I better get hopping tho', cause I have to marinate the beef! I'll check in tomorrow! Magickitty~ Up, up, and away with the restart! Take Marci's hand and go for it! NHSuzanne~ So glad SP is holding her own. Good luck on the diagnosis. And don't sweat the deadline---it'll pass----lol. :) Cheers! Eat healthy choices! Can we have a junk-free Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday CHALLENGE to make up for the holiday weekend? Planning ahead---just in case! Join me?