Hi Brenda, Sorry, I've not check my GW mail; we are dealing with Harvey. I'll let you know when I get to back home and get the clematis postage, if you still want it. Betsy

Well, you may be a good candidate for the vile weed. My aunt (from Washington) was here last year when it flowered, and was admiring it. I sent her photos of it absolutely all over the woodland near the lake, and the areas around a creek. I think I convinced her it was evil (though it may not have been in her dry cold climate). I mentioned that fact to her (just in case). The other thing is that sometimes it smells sweet, other plants smell VILE and attract flies, it's rather variable. Hee, maybe it's a survival tactic though...there's more flies in the world than bees. If no one gets you cuttings, i can probably provide in spring. I don't think in my heat, trying to ship cuttings now would be good. And fall would be a bad time to root them. I'd rather send you an entire plant...but it's awfully hard to find a small one..maybe because they grow so fast.

I planted two on my balcony last summer against a trellis (for a privacy screen). But they died during the harsh winter here (zone 6). I had three more that I ordered in the fall and which were in smaller pots and kept closer to the balcony interior wall. They survived and are doing well now. Not sure this is of any help as i can't explain what happened. Still trying to figure it out. (Another clematis in a larger pot -- that I've had for about 5 years and which was against the interior wall also died this winter.)

The last one is SAC, Clematis terniflora, for sure.